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Loved Seasons 1 and 2 of The Bear, and recently have been watching Season 3. It's such a slog. We can only get through one episode at a time.

Season 2 was so nice. It was so eventful, so full of conflict. It really seems like the writers ran out of ideas about what to do next, so they just... stopped writing altogether. The little amount of dialogue there is is weird, forced, repetitive, and unrealistic. Everything else is just filler. Close-ups of food, close-ups of mundanity. EVERY episode is like this.

I really loved when, in Breaking Bad, something insane and heavy would happen, and then afterwards there would be like a 3-4 minute scene of close-ups of a character doing something that's not immediately clear. It was a great way to decompress, ponder over the previous scene, and also give the viewer a chance to work out what the character is doing now: what the point of the scene is, what will happen next, etc.

The Bear, by contrast, just seems to use close-up compilations overlayed with shitty music haphazardly. And the music is REALLY shitty. I know the following song was not made specifically for this episode, but it really sounds like an AI wrote it:
And there’s love in the meantime
I’m so proud of this moment
In the stimulation here with you
I’m so fucking honoured

Can you feel me?
Can you feel what i do?
I’m at the front of the moment
And i’m blowing my little kisses to you, baby
I’m blowing my little kissеs
Can you feel what i do?
I’m at the front of the moment
I was looking forward to S3 after how good S2 was, and now I don't even care to watch S4. I'm done with the show.

A reviewer said an episode from S3 was their favorite episode in the whole series, and ranked it up there with two other of my favorite episodes. It turned out to be a full 40 minutes of close-ups of plated food and train commutes. Such fucking hacky TV "writing". But S3 still has an 89% on RT (50% for audience). I swear reviewers who enjoy these sorts of episodes need to come out and just say, "Here's the truth: I hate TV. I much prefer looking at pretty pictures and being alone with my thoughts."

tl;dr the bear S3 sucks and reviewers are hacks, rant over
 
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My wife also hated season 3. She felt like it was film in real time. If a meal takes 30 minutes to make, we saw all 30 minutes of the meal prep
 

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I watched that dude grow up on Shameless, which was one of those shows that really resonated with “people like me”. There really weren’t too many shows out there that showed that kind of perspective of life. We had shows like Roseanne, Married: With Children, or the Simpsons that kinda delved into the lower class struggles growing up, but nothing that really dove in that explicitly.

With that said, I’m terrible at keeping up with shows. I heard a lot of great things about the first two seasons, and then, just like in this thread, everyone dogged on the third season… for the same reasons, so I have yet to check it out. I really wish that this trend we’ve seen with television would die out… there’s far too much deviation and alteration that happens when a show becomes popular, and it always seems to take that magic away that made a show special. It’s unfortunate, too, because I felt that most of the actors in Shameless were talented, but I also felt for the kids of the show… I had a feeling that they would be typecast after the conclusion of the series, and although I wasn’t 100% right, I’d still like to see them all do good. As someone who hasn’t seen a single episode of this new show, do y’all think I’ll stand a chance tolerating the third season if I give the first two a chance? Or will it be another show I bail on when I get to the season y’all are bitching about?
 

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I watched that dude grow up on Shameless, which was one of those shows that really resonated with “people like me”. There really weren’t too many shows out there that showed that kind of perspective of life. We had shows like Roseanne, Married: With Children, or the Simpsons that kinda delved into the lower class struggles growing up, but nothing that really dove in that explicitly.

With that said, I’m terrible at keeping up with shows. I heard a lot of great things about the first two seasons, and then, just like in this thread, everyone dogged on the third season… for the same reasons, so I have yet to check it out. I really wish that this trend we’ve seen with television would die out… there’s far too much deviation and alteration that happens when a show becomes popular, and it always seems to take that magic away that made a show special. It’s unfortunate, too, because I felt that most of the actors in Shameless were talented, but I also felt for the kids of the show… I had a feeling that they would be typecast after the conclusion of the series, and although I wasn’t 100% right, I’d still like to see them all do good. As someone who hasn’t seen a single episode of this new show, do y’all think I’ll stand a chance tolerating the third season if I give the first two a chance? Or will it be another show I bail on when I get to the season y’all are bitching about?
Was Shameless really good?

S1 and S2 of this feel self-contained enough. I would watch both of those and then drop the show. I don't think S3 has a single redeeming quality or anything that advances the story in any way
 

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Was Shameless really good?

S1 and S2 of this feel self-contained enough. I would watch both of those and then drop the show. I don't think S3 has a single redeeming quality or anything that advances the story in any way

The version he’s in is a remake of the UK version of the show, which I tried watching, but, I just couldn’t deal with the accent if I’m being honest. The first several seasons of the show were great, and as cultural things started to change so did the show, and they didn’t always do an excellent job conveying those shifts without seemingly pandering… but if you can look past the absurdity of some of the plot lines (Gay Jesus, for example) it’s a really gritty representation of American life in shitty environments. To their credit, they employed a very diverse cast, and attempted to represent demographics not really represented in “mainstream” television much before them, but there were still quite a few instances where I felt that they swung and missed. It’s still a series that I definitely recommend to people, so long as they’re not easily rattled, because there is a lot of “real” shit covered that can make all kinds of people uncomfortable.
 
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