Nintendo Switch 2

[dimmerwit]

Dude I was literally going to ask you if you saw this and messed around with it yet.

I gave up when he said to bring an Xbox in the mix lol. I'm hoping there will be an HDR system update that will at least tell us the values. I don't have HGIG on my 2023 FireTV Omni QLED TV, figures. Mario Kart seems like there is always haze or a sandstorm, I can't get the values where they need to be at the moment so I'm just dealing with it. It doesn't look terrible or anything, but I know it's not perfect and that bothers me

MaxTML for the 2022 model is around ~539 nits. Couldn't find the 2023 model number.

On his now deleted table guide (due apparently to some discrepancies in the figures) that would equate to around 31 or 32 flicks up in the first menu, and 6 on the second menu. I guess you could try it as a start, or failing that you'd probably have to wait for some more investigation since there seem to be some issues with those numbers.

I don't think the HDR/SDR brightness difference on your TV is enormous anyway, so another option would be to just turn it off for now. You'd lose a bit of punch but it should at least present the colours and brightness correctly.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Watching a YouTuber that doesn't play platformers glow about the new Donkey Kong game. He said it himself, this could be a major system seller.

Did mention the frame drops, though. Hopefully Nintendo can figure it out.

Comparisons to Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, Banjo Kazooie, and Red Faction were made.

Hell, the bad guys are pretty much monkey versions of the evil mining corp in Red Faction.

 

[dimmerwit]

@Tommy Boy



Not much change, but with correct figures for the calibration thanks to Cyberpunk 2077.

For your display I'd probably start by trying something like 36 clicks on the first screen which is 450 nits MaxTML. The 2022 model has a 10% sustained brightness of 526 nits, which is what the MaxTML is based on (although helpfully it's not quite the same thing). I believe the 2023 model might be slightly brighter but I couldn't find numbers, and the tone mapping that causes this whole issue in the first place will kick in at some point before that anyway.

For the second screen a conservative start would be 12 clicks, going downwards if you increase the first setting. That said, the paperwhite value that this sets is more of a personal preference, and some people just prefer a higher setting. In truth with your display there probably won't be a massive difference in brightness compared to SDR since the 10% brightness is not that much higher.

Finally, lob a grenade at whoever invented HDR standards. Or perhaps one at LG who decided to launch their latest 2025 model OLED with a completely broken HDR10 implementation that they had to race to fix.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Followed the guide/your instructions, cheers! I'm really hoping they just figure out how to make the values display natively from the OS eventually. My TV sucks as far as HDR goes it looks like - very hard to customize. What I have so far now seems good for the TV I have, though.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Apparently, input lag is an issue in Gamecube games on the Switch 2.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Apparently, input lag is an issue in Gamecube games on the Switch 2.

Jeez, they really keep dropping the ball on these emulators. They fight the good ones to death, but can't even make an emulator that runs their own games correctly. I think I'll pass on WW for now, then.

Did they mention during the video that this is only a handheld problem? Or does this apply to docked mode as well?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Did they mention during the video that this is only a handheld problem? Or does this apply to docked mode as well?

I think its just in general. It sounds like its an issue with the emulator, not the controllers.

My Life in Gaming posted a good video where they do a rundown of all the good and bad of the Switch 2, including Gamecube emulation, backwards compatibility (including how games look in backwards compatibility mode when upscale from 720 to 1080), HDR support, how the digital library works, cloud saves, Pro Controller 2 improvements, Switch Online controllers (no button remapping?!), a brief mention of the mouse functionality, and come misc stuff at the end.



Also, Digital Foundry posted a video yesterday going into depth on games that got free backwards compatibility patches.

 

[dimmerwit]

Nintendo have confirmed that the Donkey Kong team is indeed the Mario Odyssey team.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Nintendo have confirmed that the Donkey Kong team is indeed the Mario Odyssey team.

makes sense considering the amount of things that was shown in the trailer.

Hopefully they can get the performance issues figured out. I heard there were some major framerate issues.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Hopefully they can get the performance issues figured out. I heard there were some major framerate issues.

Oh no really? In general, or just handheld?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Maybe "major" is a stretch, but ants framerate issues on a launch window game is "major", IMO.

I don't recall where I heard it, so I can't verify the validity.

 

[dimmerwit]

Nintendo have announced that their Switch Game Vouchers will no longer be sold after 30 January 2026.

 

[dimmerwit]

Reviews for Bananza are out. Metascore is currently 90.

Digital Foundry also did their performance review and said that whilst there is some slowdown in places it's generally a good experience. That said the slowdown is more noticeable since it uses a double buffered v-sync so any drops below 60 will go straight down to 30. Not sure why they're not just using VRR but then again as DF has also noted it seems there are issues on that front system-wide such as LFC not actually working.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

DF review:

 

[Tommy Boy]

Reviews for Bananza are out. Metascore is currently 90.

Digital Foundry also did their performance review and said that whilst there is some slowdown in places it's generally a good experience. That said the slowdown is more noticeable since it uses a double buffered v-sync so any drops below 60 will go straight down to 30. Not sure why they're not just using VRR but then again as DF has also noted it seems there are issues on that front system-wide such as LFC not actually working.

Were these slowdown issues for the game as a whole in any state, or do they only exist in handheld mode?

 

[dimmerwit]

Both, although they said it actually runs slightly better in handheld.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Both, although they said it actually runs slightly better in handheld.

BETTER in handheld? Dang it!

 

[dimmerwit]

I played an hour and had a smashing old time.

Performance issues weren't too annoying. Yeah I wish they'd not gone the double buffered route for this one but I don't think it will spoil the experience.

 

[Tommy Boy]

About to jump in now. I have only watched the trailer but tried to avoid gameplay videos, so going in blind.

 

[VashTheStampede]

so going in blind.

Hope they have good accessibility options

 

[Smacktard]

Tommy's reaction to that post is *chef's kiss*

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Tommy's reaction to that post is *chef's kiss*

 

[Tommy Boy]

I wasn't sure during the first 20 minutes or so, but now after playing about two hours, I can firmly say I enjoy this game. It can feel overwhelming at times for how much there is to do in such a contained area, but I just stopped trying to avoid "missing things" and just played and found things naturally. I'm on the second level now, I'll jump back in after dinner and keep on going. I'm one of those people who needs to get everything before moving on because I won't backtrack, so I spent a lot of time with the first level lol

 

[dimmerwit]

It took me about 20 minutes to get the first banana. I massacred that room.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Dunkey posted a video yesterday.



dunkey absolutely glowed about Super Mario Odyssey, so it's no surprise that he'd really enjoy another game from the same team.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Currently on SL600 and really enjoying my time. Once I pick up the controller, it's hard to put it down without clearing a sublayer. I guess I missed SL500 but I'm assuming I loop back around or something. Also, the music at SL400 was very chill. This game is a banger.

 

[dimmerwit]

Currently on SL600 and really enjoying my time. Once I pick up the controller, it's hard to put it down without clearing a sublayer. I guess I missed SL500 but I'm assuming I loop back around or something. Also, the music at SL400 was very chill. This game is a banger.

Spoiler

I'm guessing you picked the forest path? I picked freezer and got to SL500 and that's more or less where I am now. I'm assuming you'll need something from both.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Spoiler

I'm guessing you picked the forest path? I picked freezer and got to SL500 and that's more or less where I am now. I'm assuming you'll need something from both.

Yep, that's what I'm thinking too.

I have been trying to strategically invest my skill points while accidentally neglecting outfits. Now realizing how much outfits can make a difference.

 

[dimmerwit]

Made it to SL1000. I'm moving faster because the new powers are useful and I'm enjoying seeing the new worlds.

In other news, there's still supposed to be a Nintendo Direct this month.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Made it to SL1000. I'm moving faster because the new powers are useful and I'm enjoying seeing the new worlds.

I powered through to 1400, but I'm going to slow it down and go back for all the fossils I've been skipping or avoiding before pressing forward. Since this is a collectathon game, I am guessing there is some reward for getting all the fossils, so I'm just gunna get ahead of it sooner rather than later lol

This game has blown away any expectations. I'm actually impressed by how the Switch 2 handles a game that seemingly involves so many resources. A fully destructible environment was a fresh, new approach for Nintendo -- and I'm really glad they pulled it off.

 

[dimmerwit]

The only real performance disappointment so far was that boss fight at SL700. Other than that it's been more or less a non-issue, even if drops are noticeable unlike in other Nintendo games.

Spoiler

You definitely picked right going to the forest first, no matter how entertaining a zebra running fast and going "brah" is.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I am so fucking happy I didn't spoil anything in this game. I got to the core. Holy shit dude.

 

[dimmerwit]

I also got to the core.

Now only 520 bananas to find!

 

[Tommy Boy]

I'm stuck at 757 nanners, I don't think I can get the remaining 20. But I feel pretty satisfied after everything is said and done. I really liked the ending. 10/10 game overall, would recommend to all

 

[Smacktard]

Tommy's reaction to that post is *chef's kiss*

canadaguy's reaction to this post is *chef's kiss*

 

[dimmerwit]

I'm stuck at 757 nanners, I don't think I can get the remaining 20. But I feel pretty satisfied after everything is said and done. I really liked the ending. 10/10 game overall, would recommend to all

 

[dimmerwit]

The Nintendo Direct is a Partner Showcase, and it's tomorrow.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Seems like Yahtzee liked DK Bananahammock, but not as much as Astro Bot.



Astro Bot is definitely going to be one of the games I make sure to buy whenever I get a PS5. All I ever hear about it is how good it is.

Haven't watched the Nintendo Direct yet.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I was looking forward to the Mario Party Jamboree update, but it's looking pretty terrible from almost everyone I watch on YouTube. I want to try tag team mode, but I can't justify paying $20 for barely any new content on an entirely seperate part of the game.

 

[dimmerwit]

Not to mention they didn't bother to upgrade the visuals of the base mode.

 

[dimmerwit]

Nintendo announced their quarterly results and said that Mario Kart World has an attach rate of 97%. Not surprising since there was not exactly much else to buy (before the end of June), but still.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe hit 69 million, and Pokémon Scarlet/Violet finally overtook Sword/Shield in lifetime sales.

 

[dimmerwit]

Also, Nintendo have announced price rises in the US for Switch 1 consoles and selected Switch and Switch 2 accessories.

Some increases that have been revealed by Target include:

Switch OLED - $399.99 (from $350)
Switch - $339.99 (from $300)
Switch Lite - $229.99 (from $200)
Alarmo $110 (from $100)
Joy-Con 2 controllers $100 (from $95)

Supposedly from August 3rd, although Target seem to have done it already.

Nintendo said there won't be increases on games, memberships or Switch 2 hardware...yet.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

lol, I paid 100 less for the Tears of the Kingdom special edition Switch OLED.

 

[Crazy Jamie]

It's really interesting following this. I'm enjoying focusing so much more on actually playing games in recent months, to the point where once our television goes back on the wall, I am considering either a PS5 or a Switch 2. I'm still attracted to the idea of getting in on the ground floor of a new console, particularly when I won't have played any of the updated previous generation games for it, including things like Cyberpunk.

 

[The Flame]

Finally managed to find a Switch 2 bundle at Target a few days ago. Mario Kart's been fun. Can't decide if I like it more or less than previous games, but it's Mario Kart.

But I have to say, I HATE the fact that you can't turn the console on using a Switch Pro Controller, so I have to choose between either using the joy-cons or using the button on the console every time.

 

[Tommy Boy]

But I have to say, I HATE the fact that you can't turn the console on using a Switch Pro Controller, so I have to choose between either using the joy-cons or using the button on the console every time.

This is exactly how Nintendo got an extra $90 out of me. I didn't need it, but this was bothering me. I will admit, though -- I love the new Pro controller and the customizable grip buttons. My wife now uses my old pro controller, and I use the new one. Ended up working out lol

 

[dimmerwit]

Akimbo joy-con 4 lyf!