Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 4 part 3

[finlandguy]

There's the dirty metagaming thing to consider from yesterday. I think that's what TD caught on and possibly told the other wolf. Unless I'm out of my mind lol.

 

[Kat]

If there's a WW fan, the last wolf already knows who they are. TD was publicly announced as a wolf, so they'd just have to do their thing to Benzine to let the wolves know who they are. Last wolf would be a sorcerer. Only really useful when it gets down to 4 people and even then the illusionist has the upper hand.

Nah, TD would've died before the info was shared:
"At any time, the Werewolf Fan can choose to have their role revealed to a player of their choosing. The chosen player will be told the identity of the Werewolf Fan at the beginning of the next night."

I did consider Vash being a WW fan (could also explain him acting strangely and he'd show as not village), but that'd mean there's three evils left and they could control the lynch, so we'd have already lost.

There's the dirty metagaming thing to consider from yesterday. I think that's what TD caught on and possibly told the other wolf. Unless I'm out of my mind lol.

Is this something that would be good to share if the wolf probably already knows it?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I mean I can easily be convinced to switch my vote as an FYI. I threw it on Vash so I wouldn't have to vote with the dead people option.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I also just want to see what happens with the illusionist.

Based on the time the poll closes we still have like 18 hours lol.

 

[finlandguy]

Is this something that would be good to share if the wolf probably already knows it?

This is just how things kind of lined up yesterday, but soon after Quagmire made an appearance, Benzine went to rewrite the fate of cg. Could be hyperbole, but something to consider.

 

[finlandguy]

Also TD readily jumped onto Quagmire train once the above mentioned happened. Wolves do want the illusionist gone via lynch.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Also TD readily jumped onto Quagmire train once the above mentioned happened. Wolves do want the illusionist gone via lynch.

I mean TD was also outed as a wolf by that point, so him trying to get literally anyone else lynched was in his best interest.

But it was Vash and TD mostly going for Quagmire.

 

[finlandguy]

I mean TD was also outed as a wolf by that point, so him trying to get literally anyone else lynched was in his best interest.

But it was Vash and TD mostly going for Quagmire.

It'd be best for the town to lynch either of the evils, or if there's no consensus, lynch none.

Cupid consideration throws a wrench into all of this depending on who are coupled. Two townies need to kill everyone, but the wolf, while avoiding being masked. Wolf and townie is similar, but just need to rid of the illusionist. Wolf and illusionist couple don't care as long as neither is lynched today.

I'm still on board Quagmire as being the more likely illusionist all things considered. It's weird to play a solo evil too as you're by yourself against everyone. Gotta stay hidden and that also tends to make people speak and contribute less.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I feel like I'm being dismissed as a townie and that's kinda whack

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I feel like I'm being dismissed as a townie and that's kinda whack

You mean people aren't believing you and that's whack? Maybe try posting some gifs about it

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[A Maybe Baker]

No matter what happens in this game, I'm glad we can talk about finding bad dongs in future games.

 

[dimmerwit]

I'm pleased that for once I don't have a case of bad dong.

 

[VashTheStampede]

No matter what happens in this game, I'm glad we can talk about finding bad dongs in future games.

We can talk about it more if I don't die today

 

[A Maybe Baker]

We can talk about it more if I don't die today

Who is the worst of the bad dongs out there?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Who is the worst of the bad dongs out there?

I mean, if Quagmire is badong, he has to be the illusionist.

Kat would be a canine.

So I think we're on the right track here.

 

[finlandguy]

Well, I'll leave my vote on Quagmire. In the grand scheme of things, no lynch is still better for the town than lynching anyone not evil.

Until tomorrow, or the dead thread! Wahooo~!

skip

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Well, I'll leave my vote on Quagmire. In the grand scheme of things, no lynch is still better for the town than lynching anyone not evil.

Until tomorrow, or the dead thread! Wahooo~!

skip

Why are you talking about no lynch?

 

[dimmerwit]

That's a bad dong move right there.

 

[finlandguy]

Why are you talking about no lynch?

It's 3 to 3 right now and none has been really too keen on switching one way or the other between the two.

And if we can't decide if one of the two is specifically evil, keeping the numbers higher means there's a better chance tomorrow for town depending on who or what we have as wolf, SV, and who the illusionist masks.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

It's 3 to 3 right now and none has been really too keen on switching one way or the other between the two.

And if we can't decide if one of the two is specifically evil, keeping the numbers higher means there's a better chance tomorrow for town depending on who or what we have as wolf, SV, and who the illusionist masks.

It's 5-1 right now

 

[VashTheStampede]

It's 3 to 3 right now and none has been really too keen on switching one way or the other between the two.

And if we can't decide if one of the two is specifically evil, keeping the numbers higher means there's a better chance tomorrow for town depending on who or what we have as wolf, SV, and who the illusionist masks.

It's not 3 to 3?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I changed my vote like 20 minutes ago and I guess dimmerwit did in the past few minutes.

 

[finlandguy]

It's 5-1 right now

For me it was 3-3. It was me, Vash and Kat versus you, Quagmire, and dimmerwit.

Maybe I hadn't refreshed the page for a moment or something, but there was only like 10 minutes or so at best between the last post and mine.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I also said it would be extremely easy for me to switch my vote a while back.

Shouldn't have been at risk for no lynch.

 

[finlandguy]

Fair enough.

Let us skippadoo and hope we live to see an illusionist or wolf free day~

 

[VashTheStampede]

...ok so here's where I start freaking out because of how much Jawneh wants us to move along...

 

[finlandguy]

...ok so here's where I start freaking out because of how much Jawneh wants us to move along...

There's always the thing where this is all the longest con yet, where wolves had two trickster wolves and neither kut or Christina were wolves.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I am ill and I will be going to bed soon.

I will not be skipping because I don't want to get bamboozled after an illusionist kill.

Also out of hope that people will do the right thing and vote Kat, the only one I am 100% sure is guilty.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

There's always the thing where this is all the longest con yet, where wolves had two trickster wolves and neither kut or Christina were wolves.

With you and Kat as the wolves and quagmire as the illusionist?

Man that theory is so last night that I ignored it this morning when I said both you and Kat could be lying.

Come up with more fun theories.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

That's why it was fun to post basically all the fun theories I had on my mind this morning.

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Hey illusionist please illusion someone to death I wanna see what happens.

 

[finlandguy]

With you and Kat as the wolves and quagmire as the illusionist?

Man that theory is so last night that I ignored it this morning when I said both you and Kat could be lying.

Come up with more fun theories.

If the wolves didn't kill anyone last night, we would've potentially been scrambling wondering if Local was the 4th wolf lol.

I'm of the opinion that the last wolf is a blind wolf. Makes sense for the strong roles to die off real fast beyond dimmerwit. More to that point would be that by day 2, they'd have 4 folks checked with a number of other folks with role claims and whatnot. Enter Ben. Tagging Local in case he's really a protector made no sense. I imagine neither Quagmire or cg were checked at the time (and some others, but I'm not going through the possibilities) and tagged cg. Unfortunately to them, cg's death gave us TD. Maybe. Kinda makes sense.

Anything else... Err....

Technically, depending on how Benzine read and interpreted the rules, TD could've nightmared the illusionist as it happens during the day. Though the action list does state nightmare happens first at the beginning of the night, but... Who knows. Maybe there's none masked right now.

 

[finlandguy]

Man, I kind of wish I did the same thing today as I did yesterday. Though depending on what Quagmire is it wouldn't have made much of a difference.

How mad would it have been if I did it twice lmao.

(Those not insiders on this one, don't worry about it.)

 

[Quagmire]

You chose to switch to Jawneh after he caught a wolf? Then didn't shoot him the next night or switch targets? It's not very convincing.

I havent switched because I havent been paying much attention being at a work conference I hate playing this game on my phone

Also wasnt it the tricksterwolf or was that the other person who died? If it was the tricksterwolf we dont know for sure

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I havent switched because I havent been paying much attention being at a work conference I hate playing this game on my phone

Also wasnt it the tricksterwolf or was that the other person who died? If it was the tricksterwolf we dont know for sure

Two trickster wolves have been revealed at this point. Which is most likely a case of kut was trickstered and Christina was the real one.

Jawneh then helped find a different wolf who was the wolf avenger.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Jawneh then helped find a different wolf who was the wolf avenger.

AKA the one I was calling out from day 1

 

[VashTheStampede]

Ugh the more I overthink it the more I worry that Kat and Jawneh are both the badongs

 

[A Maybe Baker]

AKA the one I was calling out from day 1

But you also were doing that by vibes and not actual information.

 

[VashTheStampede]

But you also were doing that by vibes and not actual information.

I fail to see what difference this makes

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I fail to see what difference this makes

You didn't find him. Vibes don't always check out, sadly. Otherwise when FR shot your wife on your recommendation a few games back it would have ended much more happily than it did.

 

[VashTheStampede]

You didn't find him. Vibes don't always check out, sadly. Otherwise when FR shot your wife on your recommendation a few games back it would have ended much more happily than it did.

My point being that I've been serving up badongs

Which is more than Kat can say

Or you unless I'm forgetting something

 

[VashTheStampede]

Got a feeling I know how this plays out.

We kill Quagmire, he's the last wolf.

Kat illusions a couple of us to death, probably me and Jawneh

Alu and dimmerwit finish the deal.

I think we got this.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

My point being that I've been serving up badongs

Which is more than Kat can say

Or you unless I'm forgetting something

You certainly have had an eye for the bad dongs in this game.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Got a feeling I know how this plays out.

We kill Quagmire, he's the last wolf.

Kat illusions a couple of us to death, probably me and Jawneh

Alu and dimmerwit finish the deal.

I think we got this.

I would feel that the illusionist killing off the known commodities would be more likely. Dimmerwit would be a likely target.

 

[finlandguy]

It does end up being between Vash and Kat tomorrow. Unless Alu skirted around everyone's radar again, which is perfectly plausible.

We have a consensus on a person for today and there's no way other than the illusionist popping already to give us info. We can all skip which would push the illusionist to do their thing, unless they're waiting. And not on the chopping block.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Got a feeling I know how this plays out.

We kill Quagmire, he's the last wolf.

Kat illusions a couple of us to death, probably me and Jawneh

Alu and dimmerwit finish the deal.

I think we got this.

FYI your first post of the day said either Kat or Jawneh was a wolf based on your read.

 

[dimmerwit]

I still don't know if I'm convinced Quagmire's play is anything other than simply inattentive business trip material, but who knows?

 

[finlandguy]

I still don't know if I'm convinced Quagmire's play is anything other than simply inattentive business trip material, but who knows?

It could be. But it could be also leaning into it as an evil role. I'd do it. At least until I break and suddenly find a lot of free time during my "meetings".