Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 3 Day 3

[Jon]

Even if you think I lied about having a potion yesterday (not sure how that would help me), it doesn't explain why the SK didn't go after Alu, who we know was good.

Couple....

 

[Jon]

And yourself?

It should be pretty obvious at this point what I am. I'm following my game plan though

 

[Local Hero]

I also don't think Local is town because Alu, to me, was the obvious protect target and the Doctor failed. So, who DID you protect last night, @Local Hero?

Alu's days were numbered. I picked a basket case where I can do more good.

@shortkut

 

[Kat]

Couple....

I'm gonna need a bit more detail on your theory than that.

 

[Ben]

He is the bell ringer, so he got tremendous luck. Which is why FR said the dead thread believe couple is in play. I tend to agree. But I don't think he's a wolf also.

Couple....

But we didn't kill a cupid yet, so doesn't that mean they would also still have to be out there?

the Doctor failed.

 

[Local Hero]

It should be pretty obvious at this point what I am. I'm following my game plan though

Fool or alchemist. Got it.

 

[Jon]

Alu's days were numbered. I picked a basket case where I can do more good.

You chose to protect the completely unproven seer instead of the one that's brought accurate info? Huh?

I'm gonna need a bit more detail on your theory than that.

Fool's post about the dead thread. I was echoing that.

But we didn't kill a cupid yet, so doesn't that mean they would also still have to be out there?

It would, wouldn't it?

Fool or alchemist. Got it.

If I were the alc, SOMEONE who got a red potion would be dead and not JUST Tommy from the black.

 

[Kat]

But we didn't kill a cupid yet, so doesn't that mean they would also still have to be out there?

We haven't killed any solos, so whichever role it is, they must still be out there.

It also means that short list could contain a fool or HH or HH's target. We know there's no fan or sorcerer (there'd only be three wolves).

If there's a Cupid then I think we're already fucked, because they'll have a voting block of three before the end of the day if none of them are potioned. Which is enough to control the lynch.

 

[shortkut]

Ya know, this being said, you're trying awful hard to push the "town leader" role now that Alu is dead. Everyone was suspicious of you already, but what, we're all supposed to fall in line now?

There is one more town role left (if we assume CG is the Bell Ringer; which I do, but I tend to agree with the dead that it's too convenient a guess to NOT assume couple at this point).

Kat claimed Red Lady.
You claim seer that gives us no new information other than clearing Ben (which is sus in and of itself because there's only two wolves left).
Ben claims Flagger which is notoriously hard to prove.
Local claims doctor, which should have targeted Alu last night as an obvious choice).
Me? I've been playing my game plan this whole game and credit @Jawneh for it because it's the most fun I've had playing this game in a long time.

Do what you all want with this information. I've had a ton of fun this game either way. But I vote @shortkut for now.

You protest too much

I didn’t clear Ben. I said he should die since he isn’t townie. I said he isn’t wolf

 

[Local Hero]

You protest too much

I didn’t clear Ben. I said he should die since he isn’t townie. I said he isn’t wolf

Vote Jon or Ben?

 

[Jon]

You protest too much

I didn’t clear Ben. I said he should die since he isn’t townie. I said he isn’t wolf

I didn't protest at all. I was giving everyone the info I had.

 

[Local Hero]

@canadaguy sorry I never read the dictionary like you nerds

 

[Local Hero]

@canadaguy @shortkut @Fool's Requiem

We need to vote alchemist right? Ben or Jon, you guys pick and I'll follow

 

[canadaguy]

My hunch is the alchemist is coupled with a wolf

 

[shortkut]

@canadaguy @shortkut @Fool's Requiem

We need to vote alchemist right? Ben or Jon, you guys pick and I'll follow

No, we need to vote a wolf. If we don’t vote a wolf, after tomorrow night if the alchemist and wolves kill 3 people, I think the wolves win

 

[Kat]

My hunch is the alchemist is coupled with a wolf

Hmm, if so, then killing the alchemist is the way to go. It'd cause us to lose if not unless a wolf gets killed by a potion, though. Why do you think they're coupled?

 

[shortkut]

Hmm, if so, then killing the alchemist is the way to go. It'd cause us to lose if not unless a wolf gets killed by a potion, though. Why do you think they're coupled?

They knew Alu was the target of a wolf kill so they didn’t waste a potion on him

 

[Local Hero]

No, we need to vote a wolf. If we don’t vote a wolf, after tomorrow night if the alchemist and wolves kill 3 people, I think the wolves win

No that doesn't sound right.

 

[Local Hero]

Is shortkut coupled with the alchemist?

 

[shortkut]

No that doesn't sound right.

7 people left right now
2 wolves
2 solos
3 townies

After tonight, 2 wolves, 2 solos, 2 townies with alchemist able to kill 2 more with potions. That leaves 2 wolves and 2 others. Numbers even, wolves win

 

[shortkut]

Is shortkut coupled with the alchemist?

Nope, but thanks for agreeing I’m not the alchemist

 

[Local Hero]

7 people left right now
2 wolves
2 solos
3 townies

After tonight, 2 wolves, 2 solos, 2 townies with alchemist able to kill 2 more with potions. That leaves 2 wolves and 2 others. Numbers even, wolves win

So you'd rather, what, roll over and let the alchemist win?

 

[Local Hero]

Nope, but thanks for agreeing I’m not the alchemist

Why would I protect the alchemist

 

[shortkut]

So you'd rather, what, roll over and let the alchemist win?

I’d rather kill a wolf, who is hopefully targeted by the alchemist and maybe even part of a couple. Not killing a wolf is a certain loss for the town

 

[Kat]

7 people left right now
2 wolves
2 solos
3 townies

After tonight, 2 wolves, 2 solos, 2 townies with alchemist able to kill 2 more with potions. That leaves 2 wolves and 2 others. Numbers even, wolves win

Wolves don't win until the solo is dead, and the solo would likely kill wolves before they can lynch him. But yeah it's basically over for the town unless the evils really mess it up at that point.

 

[Jon]

I’d rather kill a wolf, who is hopefully targeted by the alchemist and maybe even part of a couple. Not killing a wolf is a certain loss for the town

Wolves need to clear 3 people to win. Alc is going to kill someone with the black potion today. It'll be the most pertinent information we'll get.

@Ants! our future is in your patient hands.

 

[shortkut]

Once I’m dead and revealed as spirit seer, it is over for the 4 of you. Alchemist better hope I was given a red potion if they want to live longer

 

[Ants!]

Also, with Christina's death it is now 3 votes to lynch.

 

[Jon]

Once I’m dead and revealed as spirit seer, it is over for the 4 of you. Alchemist better hope I was given a red potion if they want to live longer

Well, technically, you dying and being revealed as seer would be good for the town, since it guarantees Ben, Local and Kat are evil.

 

[Local Hero]

Once I’m dead and revealed as spirit seer, it is over for the 4 of you. Alchemist better hope I was given a red potion if they want to live longer

The only ones disputing your role are the solo players. The jerks.

Let's get 'em

 

[shortkut]

@Ants! our future is in your patient hands

Soft, supple hands

 

[Local Hero]

Well, technically, you dying and being revealed as seer would be good for the town, since it guarantees Ben, Local and Kat are evil.

And you lmao

 

[shortkut]

Well, technically, you dying and being revealed as seer would be good for the town, since it guarantees Ben, Local and Kat are evil.

And you

 

[canadaguy]

CGs updated Sus List

Super Sus
Kat
Ben

High Sus
Kut
Jon

Medium Sus
Local

Unsus
FR
CG

 

[Jon]

And you lmao

I'm not evil.

I'm neutral.

And I will remind you I have not done anything directly anti-village this game.

 

[Ben]

I'm not evil.

I'm neutral.

And I will remind you I have not done anything directly anti-village this game.

Sounds like something the alchemist would say, having only managed to kill a wolf.

 

[Kat]

Well, technically, you dying and being revealed as seer would be good for the town, since it guarantees Ben, Local and Kat are evil.

Can we please stop acting like killing townies when the numbers are this close is a good thing?! Yes, if we kill enough townies then it'll be obvious who is evil. But it'll be too late to do anything about it. It would not be a good thing if kut is killed and he's a spirit seer.

 

[Jon]

Sounds like something the alchemist would say, having only managed to kill a wolf.

Again, if I were the alchemist, I would have at least one more kill under my belt by this point. I'd be impatient with a kill role. I've never gotten one, so I am going on what I know of myself.

 

[Jon]

Can we please stop acting like killing townies when the numbers are this close is a good thing?! Yes, if we kill enough townies then it'll be obvious who is evil. But it'll be too late to do anything about it. It would not be a good thing if kut is killed and he's a spirit seer.

It's 5-2 for the wolf win scenario. If the alc has a wolf targeted, it's going to be near impossible for them to win. We need to lynch the alc if you want the town to win.

 

[Local Hero]

Again, if I were the alchemist, I would have at least one more kill under my belt by this point. I'd be impatient with a kill role. I've never gotten one, so I am going on what I know of myself.

So your "I'm not the alchemist" role claim is the actual alchemist sucks?

Strong claim

 

[Jon]

So your "I'm not the alchemist" role claim is the actual alchemist sucks?

Strong claim

I didn't claim that at all. The real alc has a strat they are following. I do not fault them for that, even if I personally disagree. They're doing right by them and that's why this game is about.

 

[Kat]

It's 5-2 for the wolf win scenario. If the alc has a wolf targeted, it's going to be near impossible for them to win. We need to lynch the alc if you want the town to win.

Okay.

This has nothing to do with what I said though.

 

[Jon]

You guys are gunning hard for me as the alchemist. If you truly believe that, then go ahead and lynch me. I won't fight it and won't encourage my team to fight it; I'm not worried about them. You'll have 2 wolves and the alc to contend with still and even with a conjuror, no real way to get an extra kill.

 

[Kat]

I'm not evil.

I'm neutral.

And I will remind you I have not done anything directly anti-village this game.

Cupid confirmed?

 

[Jon]

Okay.

This has nothing to do with what I said though.

I was just indicating it's not as dire as you are making it in this game. I never advocate for directly killing a townie. But there's no real proof he IS. EVERYONE (except me) has claimed that last random village role and NONE of you have a strong claim to it. And all of you have had missteps to put you in question.

Kut had no reads early and hasn't proven any info.
You chose to not visit anyone as red lady, which I get, but is silly with multiple confirmed townies you could simply hide with.
Local didn't protect the obvious target.
Ben hasn't had a successful flag, and yet again, an obvious target.

Honestly, Kut dying and proving he's a seer confirms Ben as the alchemist and you and Local as wolves. So, yeah, him dying to a black potion is end game.

 

[shortkut]

if Jon isn’t the alchemist, Ben is lying about receiving a potion

 

[Jon]

if Jon isn’t the alchemist, Ben is lying about receiving a potion

We shall know much more when the black potion kills. If it doesn't, then... well... I can't get a grasp on the alchemist's strategy.

 

[canadaguy]

I'm not evil.

I'm neutral.

And I will remind you I have not done anything directly anti-village this game.

Question.

Can you still win by your primary win condition?

 

[Jon]

Question.

Can you still win by your primary win condition?

Yes

 

[Kat]

I was just indicating it's not as dire as you are making it in this game. I never advocate for directly killing a townie. But there's no real proof he IS. EVERYONE (except me) has claimed that last random village role and NONE of you have a strong claim to it. And all of you have had missteps to put you in question.

Kut had no reads early and hasn't proven any info.
You chose to not visit anyone as red lady, which I get, but is silly with multiple confirmed townies you could simply hide with.
Local didn't protect the obvious target.
Ben hasn't had a successful flag, and yet again, an obvious target.

Honestly, Kut dying and proving he's a seer confirms Ben as the alchemist and you and Local as wolves. So, yeah, him dying to a black potion is end game.

If Kut is town and dies then it's 3 evil vs 2 town and 1 solo NV before the poll closes. Presumably evil votes as a block. At best the lynch is tied and they both get another kill in at night.

The only way it's not dire is if a wolf has a potion. Kut dying and being town is not good at all.