Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 2 Day 3

[Ants!]

"Can select a non-wolf player. Can change the player selected at anytime via PM. If the selected player dies via any means other than werewolf kill, that player will appear to be the wolf trickster and the wolf trickster will take on the aura and team status of the player killed."

 

[Ants!]

1. Can chose their target moments before a lynch, doesn't have to happen at night.
2. Doesn't take effect until that person dies.

 

[Ants!]

So trickster fucking with a detectives read isn't possible. Which would be a moot point anyway because JON WAS TOWN. So Zell's read would be the same, trickster or no. They would read as different teams either way.

 

[Ants!]

I got to go get my kid ready for school and myself ready for work. Hopefully there is not eight pages by the time I get back. Lol.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Doesn't take effect until that person dies

ooh, this is a good point

 

[Zell 17]

I am not sure if I am meant to reveal who Christina attempted to attack. But if @Zell 17 says I should've, can @Christina please share who she targeted? I know Zell is driving but I am sleepy and I wanted to go nuh nighs now.

Yeah that’s the marksman’s gimmick, they confirm a person is town in exchange for their life.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

 

[canadaguy]

 

[Quagmire]

you'll get your answer in like 8 hours... maybe

Its time for all Kiwis to sleep

 

[Fool's Requiem]

it's honestly a shame that you were unable to light the town on fire before you got outed.

 

[Smacktard]

So trickster fucking with a detectives read isn't possible. Which would be a moot point anyway because JON WAS TOWN. So Zell's read would be the same, trickster or no. They would read as different teams either way.

You're right, and I see my mistake now, but let me explain where my confusion came from.

I thought Trickster Wolf could SWAP auras (first mistake) with anyone at any time, and that this could only be done ONCE per game (second mistake?).

IF both of the above were true, trickster could swap auras with dimmerwit before Zell's check, therefore falsely showing dimmerwit as being evil.

Again, all of this is wrong, but it's what I thought could be a possibility.

 

[Smacktard]

Yeah that’s the marksman’s gimmick, they confirm a person is town in exchange for their life.

Seems a bit OP. They should announce it beforehand or bust

 

[VashTheStampede]

Local died as he lived: a hero.

By the way, wolves attacked me last night, and that's why Local is dead. Sorry Tommy, I fibbed about protecting you xoxo

Hmm.

My concern here is this could also be a wolf pretending to pull a redirect. It would make sense for the wolves to directly attack Local last night after a Bully hit him with a rock and goofed up his powers.

But ive also just woken up and realized there was a lot of talk as to whether the rock would fuck up an Avenger and I think we fell on "no" so i suppose that could apply to Loudmouth too.

So I lean towards believing this until hearing otherwise as far as rule interactions.

Don't get too comfortable.



Last night I hit PAYDIRT!!

Good aura? Ambiguous
Unknown aura? Ambiguous
Evil aura? NOT ambiguous

Only wolf team has evil aura. No townie, no solo, only wolf. Quagmire has evil aura!!!!

I planned to say it's going to be a short day phase and then vote Quagmire and skip, but the discovery of the arsonist complicates things.

It'd be funny if someone with a self-professed worthless role like aura seer was tricked by an even more worthless Shaman lol

Obviously today should be Canada Day but Ants vs Quagmire is something to dig into in the meantime. Should have fuckin muted Quagmire after all

Local being the Loudmouth makes so much sense.

In case it wasn't already super obvious, Zell was the Detective and Vash is the Voodoo Wolf.

Petty begets petty or a wolf trying to get away with a weird logical leap?

Lots of wolves left, looks like...maybe I went 2 for 2 on Wolves Muted yesterday?

I thought we killed one, Jawneh, or am I forgetting some?

Don't expect any input from Alu today, not like we would have been able to discuss his role or anything.

Now to sit back and hope my wife tried to kill me last night so I can go about my reading in peace.

 

[GwJumpman]

If we know we have a bully (which I guess we don't KNOW but Local said he was rocked and we know he was good so he prob didn't lie), then why not rely on Bully to kill canada and we lynch a confirmed wolf?

 

[VashTheStampede]

If we know we have a bully (which I guess we don't KNOW but Local said he was rocked and we know he was good so he prob didn't lie), then why not rely on Bully to kill canada and we lynch a confirmed wolf?

Bully takes two hits and in the meantime the arsonist burns us all

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh wait yeah the concussion would save us

That might be the play there

 

[Ants!]

Oh wait yeah the concussion would save us

That might be the play there

This is day three so if they used their rocks on both of the previous days and they should have two left, I think? In which case they have just enough to pull this off. Let's do it.

 

[VashTheStampede]

This is day three so if they used their rocks on both of the previous days and they should have two left, I think? In which case they have just enough to pull this off. Let's do it.

Did they use a rock on day 1? I don't recall that

 

[Ants!]

Did they use a rock on day 1? I don't recall that

No idea. Hell I don't even know if there really is a bully at all. Thus the word "if"

 

[VashTheStampede]

If the Bully is Alu...

 

[canadaguy]

Weird though you want to kill a fellow human when you got this big wolf infestation.

An infestation I can clear out pretty effectively.

 

[Quagmire]

Bully takes two hits and in the meantime the arsonist burns us all

Anyone able to protect bully?

 

[Ants!]

Weird though you want to kill a fellow human when you got this big wolf infestation.

An infestation I can clear out pretty effectively.

Would you be willing to share who the people are that you doused with gasoline so far? If we suspect that it will tip the numbers in the towns favor, then that would be something worth talking about.

 

[Smacktard]

Oh wait yeah the concussion would save us

That might be the play there

Great play. Have the bully concuss canadaguy, get killed by the wolves tonight, and then allow the wolves to hold the town hostage.

 

[Quagmire]

If the Bully is Alu...

@Local Hero or @Jawneh level move there

Though I did rock a townie last game

 

[VashTheStampede]

Great play. Have the bully concuss canadaguy, get killed by the wolves tonight, and then allow the wolves to hold the town hostage.

Can you not protect them?

 

[Ants!]

Great play. Have the bully concuss canadaguy, get killed by the wolves tonight, and then allow the wolves to hold the town hostage.

Good point.

 

[Ants!]

Can you not protect them?

Oooh better point

 

[Smacktard]

Can you not protect them?

Nah:

The flagger cannot redirect attacks in consecutive nights. The village will NOT be notified that an attack has been redirected. The flagger will know if their redirect is successful.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Ok bad plan abort mission

 

[Quagmire]

Ok bad plan abort mission

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Petty begets petty or a wolf trying to get away with a weird logical leap?

Lots of wolves left, looks like...maybe I went 2 for 2 on Wolves Muted yesterday?

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[Quagmire]

Vash you should have used this one

 

[VashTheStampede]

Vash you should have used this one

Nah I needed the sarcastic thumbs up, that more accurately got my feelings across

 

[Ants!]

Can "noob" be a new role next game?

Maybe they get their win condition by getting lynched like the fool but the town keeps on playing after their death anyway.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Here, how about this: Do you believe Tommy is the Ritualist?

 

[GwJumpman]

Local being the Loudmouth makes so much sense.

In case it wasn't already super obvious, Zell was the Detective and Vash is the Voodoo Wolf.

I'm guessing we're voting the outed Arso.

Edit: If we have people who can shoot during the day, now would be a very good time to do that.

Edit 2: I voted Vash before seeing that CG was outed as Arso. Switched my vote to CG.

Can you explain how it's obvious Vash is Voodoo Wolf? i'm a dummy

 

[Ants!]

Here, how about this: Do you believe Tommy is the Ritualist?

He was really quick to catch Jawneh in the lie and now we have a dead Zerker because of it. I think it's pretty safe to assume he's the real deal.

Can you explain how it's obvious Vash is Voodoo Wolf? i'm a dummy

I've been wondering this too.

 

[Ants!]

Which reminds me, is a rez going to happen soon? We could use the numbers.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

He was really quick to catch Jawneh in the lie and now we have a dead Zerker because of it. I think it's pretty safe to assume he's the real deal.

Then Vash is the Voodoo Wolf, not the librarian.

Can you explain how it's obvious Vash is Voodoo Wolf? i'm a dummy

Seemed like the general consensus based on yesterday's thread was that Vash was Voodoo, if not, that's my bad.

I was able to confirm that Vash is Voodoo instead of the librarian.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

don't "wut?" me, Vash. You know "wut".

I will turn this car around, mister.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Are you reading old games and thinking they're this one?

IIRC the only "consensus" was that Kelly thought I was a wolf along with Christina lol

 

[Ants!]

Then Vash is the Voodoo Wolf, not the librarian.

I'm lost on the logic here.

 

[canadaguy]

Would you be willing to share who the people are that you doused with gasoline so far? If we suspect that it will tip the numbers in the towns favor, then that would be something worth talking about.

This town has shown they are only really effective at killing their own and themselves, so

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'm lost on the logic here.

It's quite simple:

If Tommy is good, Vash cannot be a townie. Unless someone else is randomly silencing people, Vash can only be Voodoo Wolf and not the SV.

The only way Vash is librarian, is if Tommy was a wolf and for whatever reason immediately contradicted a fellow wolf's story.

Zell= Detective
Tommy=Ritualist
Vash=Voodoo

Also, congrats to Vash for finally getting a wolf role. Must be nice.

 

[VashTheStampede]

It's quite simple:

If Tommy is good, Vash cannot be a townie. Unless someone else is randomly silencing people, Vash can only be Voodoo Wolf and not the SV.

The only way Vash is librarian, is if Tommy was a wolf and for whatever reason immediately contradicted a fellow wolf's story.

Zell= Detective
Tommy=Ritualist
Vash=Voodoo

I don't know about the rest of you, but that clears it up for me 100%

Voting Vash

 

[VashTheStampede]

Also, congrats to Vash for finally getting a wolf role. Must be nice.

I was literally a wolf last game?

Dude do you need to see a doctor?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I don't know about the rest of you, but that clears it up for me 100%

Voting Vash

nah, we need to get rid of the Arsonist because if we let the arso live now, there's too much risk of him making it easier for you wolves to close in the numbers. Can't take the risk that he lights all the wolves on fire like you did last year.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I was literally a wolf last game?

Dude do you need to see a doctor?

that one doesn't count