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Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 2 Day 1

Lynch? 8 required

  • Ants!

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  • Banana

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  • canadaguy

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  • Christina

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  • GwJumpman

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  • Jawneh

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  • Jon

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  • Kat

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  • Local Hero

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  • Quagmire

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  • Smacktard

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  • Tommy Boy

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  • Zell 17

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  • Total voters
    17
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Dictionary: https://gwforums.com/threads/zell-wolf-role-dictionary-and-hall-of-fame.427/

Here's the list of players:

Alu
Ants
Banana
cg
Christina
Dead body
dimmerwit
Fools
GwJumpman
Jawneh
Jon
Kat
kut
Local
Quagmire
Smacktard
Tommy
Vash
Zell 17


And here are the roles:

Village team:
4x Random Strong Villagers
8x Random Regular Villagers

Note: There will be NO MORE than one person who has a "speak with the dead" role. There will also be no more than one person with a "lock players up at night" role. There may be none of either, but there won't be multiple.

Wolf team:
5x Random Wolves

Solo team:
1x Random Killer

Wildcard Role:
1x Random Fool/Headhunter/Werewolf Fan/Cupid

If the Werewolf Fan is selected, one wolf will become the Sorcerer.

Rules:
Nights will be 12 hours and days will be 24 hours. The end of the next period will be clearly posted.

You may edit your posts for clarity. If you edit out an action (like shooting someone) and you get caught I'm killing you.

Votes will be conducted via poll. The poll will close exactly at the deadline. You have unlimited changes until that point. If this sucks we'll go back, even if it's mid-game (not mid-day).

There will be a minimum number of votes required to lynch. Usually this number will be around the number of villagers / 2 - 1. In the event of a tie, nobody is lynched. In the event that the minimum number of votes is not reached, nobody is lynched.

Skips require a skip vote from every player. They'll be posted in the forum as usual. Once you vote to skip, you cannot unskip.

Night events will go in the following priority order regardless of when the PMs are sent to me:

Wolf Nightmare activates
Beast Hunter picks up trap (if moved)
Wolf Shaman/Confusion activates
Medium/Ritualist revive spell
Wolves break out of warden prison
Warden weapon used
Wolf seer/Sorcerer check
Wolf seer/Sorcerer choice to resign
Blind Wolf check
Illusionist disguise
Flagger redirect
Doctor protect
Bodyguard protect
Witch protect
Tough Guy protect
Violinist check
Detective check
Aura Seer check
Voodoo wolf / Librarian mute
Marksman shot
Witch kill (if not killed by marksman, otherwise potion unused)
Jailer kill (if not killed by marksman/witch)
Red Lady visit
Revived players return from the dead (cannot be targeted by wolves/solo in same night)
Solo killer attack
Wolf berserk mode activates
Wolves kill
Spirit Seer/Sheriff check
Beast Hunter places trap
Cupid selection

In the event that two of the same role perform the exact same action, they will both be credited.

Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads. This is honor system. When you die, you will gain access to a special forum that is already set up. The ritualist will have access to this forum at night. If you are revived by the ritualist, you will lose access. Please use this forum for all discussion by dead players about the game. Alive players can talk during the main thread during the day.

It is possible, if very unlikely, for the game to end in a tie if every single player is killed. The game also ends in a tie if there are no deaths for three straight days and nights.

Winning Conditions:

Village: Kill all wolves and the solo killer.

Wolves: Kill the solo killer. Once the wolves make up half the total players, the wolves win, regardless of the roles remaining.

Solo Killer: Kill all other players.

Wildcard Role: Satisfy your winning condition. Your winning condition trumps any other that may occur at the same time. (For example, if you lynch the fool and it creates a situation where there are 3 wolves left and 3 villagers, the Fool wins only).
 
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I'm the aura seer. I picked 14. @Banana is a wolf

Im still a noob to this, but I dont feel like people give up their role this early, but then again Local is known for being unconventional :p

Not saying you're not the seer, but I find this sus

But for good measure

I'm the aura seer, I picked 12 and Jon is a Wolf!

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Also question about last game, cupid selection is last, so how was cupid able to select someone last game if they were killed during the random draw?
 
I am the Sorcerer. At least one of us is lying about our roles.
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I would like to encourage the group of Aura seers NOT to check one another tonight. For a couple reasons:

1) they’re likely all real
2) If not, having one aura seer say they checked another as evil will be useless to the town when the “evil” aura seer says they checked the first as evil.
3) aura seers are great shaman targets in a multi-aura seer game, which will end up with the town killing off ALL the aura seers (first the “evil” aura seer, and then the one who called them evil).

Instead, check unclaimed people and we judge who is real based on the strength of their information.
 

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I would like to encourage the group of Aura seers NOT to check one another tonight. For a couple reasons:

1) they’re likely all real
2) If not, having one aura seer say they checked another as evil will be useless to the town when the “evil” aura seer says they checked the first as evil.
3) aura seers are great shaman targets in a multi-aura seer game, which will end up with the town killing off ALL the aura seers (first the “evil” aura seer, and then the one who called them evil).

Instead, check unclaimed people and we judge who is real based on the strength of their information.
Directions unclear, checked myself to not wreck myself
 

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I would like to encourage the group of Aura seers NOT to check one another tonight. For a couple reasons:

1) they’re likely all real
2) If not, having one aura seer say they checked another as evil will be useless to the town when the “evil” aura seer says they checked the first as evil.
3) aura seers are great shaman targets in a multi-aura seer game, which will end up with the town killing off ALL the aura seers (first the “evil” aura seer, and then the one who called them evil).

Instead, check unclaimed people and we judge who is real based on the strength of their information.
The flipside of this is the possibility that Zell is aligned with a wolf who just pretended to be a seer and is trying to prevent them getting found out post-haste.

Using the fear of a  possible Shaman to stop a full investigation.

His logic is sound, but that's my back-of-the-mind worry because Zell knows the ins-and-outs of this game better than anyone and would know how to pull off an immediate false seer play.
 

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The flipside of this is the possibility that Zell is aligned with a wolf who just pretended to be a seer and is trying to prevent them getting found out post-haste.

Using the fear of a  possible Shaman to stop a full investigation.

His logic is sound, but that's my back-of-the-mind worry because Zell knows the ins-and-outs of this game better than anyone and would know how to pull off an immediate false seer play.
Then the evil/fake wolf seer should be the first one to call out evil Zell's plan to look like more good!
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The flipside of this is the possibility that Zell is aligned with a wolf who just pretended to be a seer and is trying to prevent them getting found out post-haste.

Using the fear of a  possible Shaman to stop a full investigation.

His logic is sound, but that's my back-of-the-mind worry because Zell knows the ins-and-outs of this game better than anyone and would know how to pull off an immediate false seer play.
#2 is the real issue. Let’s say Ants is real, checks Local and Local shows as evil. Local says he checked Ants and Ants is evil. It’s a full wasted night of aura seer checks for the town, because we don’t gain any additional information and still have to make a decision based on vibes
 
#2 is the real issue. Let’s say Ants is real, checks Local and Local shows as evil. Local says he checked Ants and Ants is evil. It’s a full wasted night of aura seer checks for the town, because we don’t gain any additional information and still have to make a decision based on vibes


This is only my fourth game but that feels very on brand for how the village has acted

Then the shooter will blast someone and it turns out that that player was also a villager, or the jail or jails a villager and Shanks them in the middle of the night
 

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I will say that I'm much more inclined to believe Ants' seer claim because he's trying to get out there before the train leaves the station and he's also attempting to exonerate another player.

If I'm a seer with a day 1 read I'm more likely to sit on it for a bit and try to gather vibes, additional reads, and avoid becoming a wolf target but maybe Local was just super excited. But damn if it isnt the action of someone with nothing to fear.
 
I will say that I'm much more inclined to believe Ants' seer claim because he's trying to get out there before the train leaves the station and he's also attempting to exonerate another player.

If I'm a seer with a day 1 read I'm more likely to sit on it for a bit and try to gather vibes, additional reads, and avoid becoming a wolf target but maybe Local was just super excited. But damn if it isnt the action of someone with nothing to fear.
I'm 9, so I picked the other half of my favorite number (6).
 
I will say that I'm much more inclined to believe Ants' seer claim because he's trying to get out there before the train leaves the station and he's also attempting to exonerate another player.

If I'm a seer with a day 1 read I'm more likely to sit on it for a bit and try to gather vibes, additional reads, and avoid becoming a wolf target but maybe Local was just super excited. But damn if it isnt the action of someone with nothing to fear.

While I think Ants is real, I'm more of a mind to believe those Aura seers with evil info. Because either:
a) They will be proven fakes near immediately or
b) They're selling off a teammate

Either way we're getting a wolf quickly. It's the right play by Local, Aura seers aren't actually that valuable and if he got killed with info on a known evil it really would be a mistake.
 

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While I think Ants is real, I'm more of a mind to believe those Aura seers with evil info. Because either:
a) They will be proven fakes near immediately or
b) They're selling off a teammate

Yeah but you're a logical brain and I'm a vibes brain so I don't expect us to ever agree on methodology lol

Either way we're getting a wolf quickly.

Unless your Shaman has already fucked us over
 
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