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Uh...this is a meme? I've seen this as a serious posting at work places that don't allow vacation time.
Someone would use that to seriously justify not allowing time off?? Do they also have a ban on checking obviously shoddy arithmetic? I don't think you'll convince even the most math-challenged that they only work one day per year.
 

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Someone would use that to seriously justify not allowing time off?? Do they also have a ban on checking obviously shoddy arithmetic? I don't think you'll convince even the most math-challenged that they only work one day per year.
I mean... For the amount of time I sit at my desk browsing GWF, etc... Maybe I only work 1 day per year.
 
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Uh...this is a meme? I've seen this as a serious posting at work places that don't allow vacation time.
I took it for a joke given how ridiculously over the top it is, and how the math starts out legit and then goes off the rails (30 minutes a day adds up to 23 days in a year?). I guess I wouldn't be shocked if some asshole managers out there used it seriously though (and were also this poor at math).
 

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I took it for a joke given how ridiculously over the top it is, and how the math starts out legit and then goes off the rails (30 minutes a day adds up to 23 days in a year?). I guess I wouldn't be shocked if some asshole managers out there used it seriously though (and were also this poor at math).

My dad was one of those guys. He gave me a good lesson on how to manage people without being a dick. I remember when I was a teenager, he would time every employee as they did a task, and then calculate exactly how many they should be producing a day based on how many the people with the best times would produce. There's nothing more aggravating than watching somebody time you, or catching them time you when they think you're not paying attention because you're actually doing your goddamn job. It got to a point where I told him that if he wanted each seat to take exactly 3 minutes to produce, he better get machinery, because real people watch their best time decay as they tire out. You don't sustain productivity by pushing your employees day-in and day-out like that, you end up draining them.
 
Haha, I couldn't help but try to figure out how they came up with that number: it's 30 minutes * 365 days / 8 hour days. If only I could use such creative accounting on my timesheet.
Yeah I was like, okay that's 182.5 hours a year, 24 hours in a day, then I stopped because 24 doesn't go into 182.5 twenty-three times lol.
 

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I've worked for people who throw a fit if they see you stop working for even a few seconds while "on the clock". Happens a lot in the blue collar world. I hate that shit.

Yup, I also worked for a repo company that would call you if dispatch noticed you sitting for more than 5 minutes. I stopped getting those calls the morning I turned in 10 incomplete reports. I wasn't filling them out for free on my time, and I wasn't dealing with phone calls asking stupid questions while keeping my head on a swivel in the hood in the middle of the night. I always cited the good work/cheap work argument with that manager until he got fired... for dereliction of responsibilities, ironically.
 

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My dad was one of those guys. He gave me a good lesson on how to manage people without being a dick. I remember when I was a teenager, he would time every employee as they did a task, and then calculate exactly how many they should be producing a day based on how many the people with the best times would produce. There's nothing more aggravating than watching somebody time you, or catching them time you when they think you're not paying attention because you're actually doing your goddamn job. It got to a point where I told him that if he wanted each seat to take exactly 3 minutes to produce, he better get machinery, because real people watch their best time decay as they tire out. You don't sustain productivity by pushing your employees day-in and day-out like that, you end up draining them.
Yeah that's an awful way to motivate people. I was once a frontline manager in retail and got a similar lesson from a manager there. His advice to me: if you think you could do a task working your hardest within two hours, tell your staff to do it in thirty minutes. They'll bust their asses because they know it'll be difficult [I think there was also a suggestion to give them a hard time for not being on pace to finish within thirty minutes], and sure they won't do it that quick because that's impossible [he literally said this!!], but maybe they'll do it in ninety minutes or two hours instead of their usual three!

This was during a conversation where I was getting written up because my department didn't get everything done that they asked me get done. Because they always asked for the impossible, so I never even attempted to get done what they asked. And I had never once gotten in trouble for it before. Because it was impossible.

And he didn't see the problem at all with his cunning strategy...

Then the next night they told me to run the department again, and I refused because I wasn't even getting paid for it but was getting written up for it. And that manager was [Pikachu shocked face] to find I wasn't interested in that risk/reward arrangement.

Most people in management positions are absolute shit at it.
 

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Yeah that's an awful way to motivate people. I was once a frontline manager in retail and got a similar lesson from a manager there. His advice to me: if you think you could do a task working your hardest within two hours, tell your staff to do it in thirty minutes. They'll bust their asses because they know it'll be difficult [I think there was also a suggestion to give them a hard time for not being on pace to finish within thirty minutes], and sure they won't do it that quick because that's impossible [he literally said this!!], but maybe they'll do it in ninety minutes or two hours instead of their usual three!

This was during a conversation where I was getting written up because my department didn't get everything done that they asked me get done. Because they always asked for the impossible, so I never even attempted to get done what they asked. And I had never once gotten in trouble for it before. Because it was impossible.

And he didn't see the problem at all with his cunning strategy...

Then the next night they told me to run the department again, and I refused because I wasn't even getting paid for it but was getting written up for it. And that manager was [Pikachu shocked face] to find I wasn't interested in that risk/reward arrangement.

Most people in management positions are absolute shit at it.

I've always held the belief that management should be promoted internally in most instances. Your job shouldn't be to tell other people how to do a job that you don't know how to effectively perform yourself. That's the difference between a leader and a director. People with knowhow should lead, not people that just give directives.
 
Yeah that's an awful way to motivate people. I was once a frontline manager in retail and got a similar lesson from a manager there. His advice to me: if you think you could do a task working your hardest within two hours, tell your staff to do it in thirty minutes. They'll bust their asses because they know it'll be difficult [I think there was also a suggestion to give them a hard time for not being on pace to finish within thirty minutes], and sure they won't do it that quick because that's impossible [he literally said this!!], but maybe they'll do it in ninety minutes or two hours instead of their usual three!

This was during a conversation where I was getting written up because my department didn't get everything done that they asked me get done. Because they always asked for the impossible, so I never even attempted to get done what they asked. And I had never once gotten in trouble for it before. Because it was impossible.

And he didn't see the problem at all with his cunning strategy...

Then the next night they told me to run the department again, and I refused because I wasn't even getting paid for it but was getting written up for it. And that manager was [Pikachu shocked face] to find I wasn't interested in that risk/reward arrangement.

Most people in management positions are absolute shit at it.
I could see collecting that data possibly being useful if done in a more positive way, a carrot instead of a stick. Like a good-spirited competition if workers wanted to try to out compete each other and possibly incentivizing and praising good performers. Not "you're not working fast enough, other people are out-performing you."
 
I've always held the belief that management should be promoted internally in most instances. Your job shouldn't be to tell other people how to do a job that you don't know how to effectively perform yourself. That's the difference between a leader and a director. People with knowhow should lead, not people that just give directives.
One of the things that can be dysfunctional about government. Instead of promoting one of the lower-level people, sometimes a new person can be brought in with the new administration and has no fucking clue how to run things but is expected to boss around the people who do.

My wife is experiencing this right now because she works for the state. She tells me that usually when it's a democratic governor like Blanco or Bel Edwards, her job is a piece of cake because the bosses they appoint their departments were good picks and trusted people to know how to do the jobs they've been in for years. But when we get a republican governor, it's a complete fucking circus (like when we had Jindal).

Ever since Landry got elected, he's appointed the most horrible cronies. One girl named Madison was appointed as her boss at first, until she got promoted to be the #2 person for ICE. While she was still the boss at LDWF though, she had an interview and they asked her why she was a good appointment and her response was because it was good for her career (nothing what so ever about what it means to be a public servant or about the job itself or her skills or anything). Very blatantly open that it was a self-serving thing for someone like her.

Her current replacement is even worse. A very young lady who's past experience was running a tiktok for a coffee shop. Micromanages the fuck out of my wife, who tells me tons of stories and examples of just how incompetent this woman is and I'm constantly amazed how anybody could have thought she might be a good hire for a position like that.
 
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One of the things that can be dysfunctional about government. Instead of promoting one of the lower-level people, sometimes a new person can be brought in with the new administration and has no fucking clue how to run things but is expected to boss around the people who do.

My wife is experiencing this right now because she works for the state. She tells me that usually when it's a democratic governor like Blanco or Bel Edwards, her job is a piece of cake because the bosses they appoint their departments were good picks and trusted people to know how to do the jobs they've been in for years. But when we get a republican governor, it's a complete fucking circus (like when we had Jindal).

Ever since Landry got elected, he's appointed the most horrible cronies. One girl named Madison was appointed as her boss at first, until she got promoted to be the #2 person for ICE. While she was still the boss at LDWF though, she had an interview and they asked her why she was a good appointment and her response was because it was good for her career (nothing what so ever about what it means to be a public servant or about the job itself or her skills or anything). Very blatantly open that it was a self-serving thing for someone like her.

Her current replacement is even worse. A very young lady who's past experience was running a tiktok for a coffee shop. Micromanages the fuck out of my wife, who tells me tons of stories and examples of just how incompetent this woman is and I'm constantly amazed how anybody could have thought she might be a good hire for a position like that.

The repo company manager story I mentioned hired a former dispatch manager for a towing company. Repo and towing are two different realms entirely. The closest any towing company would come to repo is impound work, which is typically is contracted out by municipalities or private companies adhering to local law. You simply can't go from handling roadside assistance calls to telling repo agents how to do their job when all you know is how to route the closest driver to a call. This guy wanted to question everything, micromanage everything, and rewrite the book of repo that he never even read. Within 6 months, he was canned after failing to perform his job and damaging a wheel lift on a $240k wrecker because he tried to operate it himself. That's how people get hurt and how equipment gets damaged, both are bad for business.

That's the biggest problem with bringing management in. A lot of them will see the tasks being performed in front of them, and assume that because they're management, they have some degree of insight or skill set to bring to the table that their subordinates lack. It doesn't work that way, there's a reason why that saying "easier said than done" exists.
 
But it's cheaper than giving everyone raises and most people don't job hop
They would have us believe that, but there are lots of things that impact the bottom line and aren't as easy to measure or quantify. I think having a burnt out staff or one that is poorly trained would bring in a lot less money than people who are happy to be there. I'm still of the opinion that it's a bad business strategy.
 
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They would have us believe that, but there are lots of things that impact the bottom line and aren't as easy to measure or quantify. I think having a burnt out staff or one that is poorly trained would bring in a lot less money than people who are happy to be there. I'm still of the opinion that it's a bad business strategy.

I agree with you, they just don't care bottom dollar and short term gain is all they care about
 
One thing that makes me sad is thinking that I would dearly love to be able to sit the kids down and watch the full Lord of the rings trilogy with them someday, but I doubt any of them will have the attention span or even any interest at all. I imagine looking up at one of the good parts and seeing them absorbed in their tablet or something.
 
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