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Then why ask? You just want him to cop to being lazy? Lazy Hero? Is that what you think of him?

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Yeah, making the posts right when I wake up and during the kids' bedtime are probably the worst times to do it.
Yeah, that's always rough.

Also trying to come up with and write up stories at the same time is insane. I dont know how i survived running 2 games.

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Yeah, that's always rough.

Also trying to come up with and write up stories at the same time is insane. I dont know how i survived running 2 games.

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I mentioned it either here or to Alu. It was actually harder doing it during PTO as it's easier to have time on my laptop in between meetings instead of hanging with family
 

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Now that the game is ended, I gotta say @shortkut was my favorite player this game. You played the role perfectly. You betrayed both the Agency and the Mob. You spoke logically, and were persistent. And in the end, you were killed for all of your effort and didn't win. Mad respect. Seriously. You were cast as such a villain that I couldn't help but love you. Chaotic neutral fr fr
You may not have won the game... But you won my heart
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It happened within the last few years, well after the movie was made.
So let me get this straight. The Browns gave Houston 3 first round picks for a serial rapest with active sexual harassment/assault allegations and promised to pay him his full contract of 230 million dollars no matter what happened?

Golly gee willikers
 

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So let me get this straight. The Browns gave Houston 3 first round picks for a serial rapest with active sexual harassment/assault allegations and promised to pay him his full contract of 230 million dollars no matter what happened?

Golly gee willikers
Yeah...and then, go figure, he's been a complete bust for them.
 

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Now that the game is ended, I gotta say @shortkut was my favorite player this game. You played the role perfectly. You betrayed both the Agency and the Mob. You spoke logically, and were persistent. And in the end, you were killed for all of your effort and didn't win. Mad respect. Seriously. You were cast as such a villain that I couldn't help but love you. Chaotic neutral fr fr
You may not have won the game... But you won my heart
<3
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Yeah this was a great shortkut game
Because I read the roles and had extra information
 

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Maybe to nerf the town more, if the town kills a partner, they both die
I think they're fine. The partners are a two person Loudmouth, but with the twist of not getting a public notice. The mob could easily intercept this and potentially sacrifice one of their folks to say they're the other partner and lead a lynch of someone else.

Would be interesting if there's a librarian mob role and the other partner gets silenced the same night lol. How evil.

If I do another game, big if, I think I'll buff vampire. If they attack someone being protected by doctor it should be a double kill (both converted)

If priest visits the vampire the priest dies (converted). Also priest only gets the confession if mob killed that night.

There was a lot of questions about the people killed by the vamp. Specifically, do they switch to the vampire's team? Maybe everyone who is converted and the vamp get their own chat so the dead player can help the vamp win?

Another mob role or two so they have more powers. Including mob seer.

Fewer town seers.

If judge picks wrongly, the person they judged dies no matter what, and the judge dies if they picked incorrectly (kind of like what I tried to do with Kat lol).

Please do let me know your thoughts
Seems good.

Regarding town seers, once there's other town roles, they get diluted down. This game did specifically show how a detective role can be really strong. Just needs a bit of help from other seers.

I liked, that I had to convince people who the vampire was. I didn't like that I had to convince people that the vampire needed to die. I couldn't understand why people couldn't follow simple logic. They were so mindblowingly stubborn that I could not wrap my head around why they wouldn't do it. I felt I had to force them to do what was best for them like children.
I did try to explain myself there. Hopefully it came through between the shenanigans. Reading and comprehension are two different things lol. It didn't quite register at all to me that the end was nigh.

But also, I wasn't trying to help either much. I was more interested in the bit and trying to make use of it, more so seeing you and some others already figured it out.
 
I mentioned most of this in PM before so this might sound familiar to some of you

I liked, that I had to convince people who the vampire was. I didn't like that I had to convince people that the vampire needed to die. I couldn't understand why people couldn't follow simple logic. They were so mindblowingly stubborn that I could not wrap my head around why they wouldn't do it. I felt I had to force them to do what was best for them like children.

By the end, I wanted to die and I wanted the agency to lose. They didn’t deserve to win, Christina should have won. Even with me spoon-feeding them, they nearly threw it away, and in the end all I did was spoil Christina’s chance for victory and hand it to people that didn’t know what to do with it

In jail with TD (simplified so TD has something to argue about)
- we both claim armorer
- I suggest I give gun first night we can and TD gives gun second night so the jailer knows which one of us is lying
- TD fights against it tooth and nail so we make a plan to have Jon answer some coded questions to answer which plan he likes better
- leads to Jon dying

In the day thread
- I try to suggest kill the vampire so fewer agents die overnight
- town does math to show we have 2 chances with at least 2 suspects
- town decides to make it so they only have one chance to vote between the multiple suspects
- I harass the agency until the finally do what I ask

For the record: I would have abstained from posting every day phase until the end of the game like I promised. I made that promise because I wanted to die and because I didn’t want to give the agency any clear information after how they behaved

My only direct lie all game was that there was no mechanism for which I could die via the mob
I'm sure you already know, but there was no way I could trust anything you said even if you were telling the truth as you were. The fact that you were insistent that Tommy and Ben were NOT Vampires all but assured me that they were Mob and that we were on the right track.

I had to remain cautious because the second I trust anyone with information, it blows up in my face. "Why are they willingly giving me this information". Even on the last day, I was trying to come up with how on earth it couldn't be Tommy and how one of our many seers were the actual Mob.

I think it you openly blab the other Mob members, it becomes less of a fight to convince thr Agency.

Also, we weren't sure how many Mob members there actually were, nor what the other roles were. If we didn't take a shot at a Mob and they had a Guardian Mob (or whatever it was) and a Godfather, which they did have on top of a fifth mobster, voting out a guaranteed mobster seemed like a better bet.
 

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Now that the game is ended, I gotta say @shortkut was my favorite player this game. You played the role perfectly. You betrayed both the Agency and the Mob. You spoke logically, and were persistent. And in the end, you were killed for all of your effort and didn't win. Mad respect. Seriously. You were cast as such a villain that I couldn't help but love you. Chaotic neutral fr fr
You may not have won the game... But you won my heart
<3
Yeah but he didnt give the gun to Ben so fuck him
 

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I did. Problem was, no one was convinced I wasn't mob.
I was fairly certain. But there was a lot of discussion about how you were partaking in a sacrifice play from day 1.

As I said in one of the later days: we don't tend to subscribe to the simplest explanations here.


See later: people started to assume I could have been lying the whole time, even after having readings that outed literally all of the mob.
 
So why'd they off shortkut? Was it because he was getting too friendly with the agency?
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I/we didn't know the double agent was in our chat, and figured it was too OP. I agree with everything Kelly said about his performance, this was pretty much just for the lulz. All the DA had to do was kill the vampire and win with anybody. We had to worry about the DA turning on us, the vampire, and the 800 fucking agency seers. So in the end, I felt that even though he probably would have kept his word about not posting the following day, this was a very mob thing to do. And with the odds, with the vampire gone, we had no path to victory.

Why kill Kat? That is straight up giving yourself away.

Going to try and pretend to be Kat's real partner? That would at least be an amusing way to go.
We were originally going to resign after Ben was lynched but decided to keep going for one more day just in case. I would have taken two days to kill anyway, but it would have been vote skips and pretty much over already. We didn't want to drag it out when it was an inevitable agency win, buuuuut Ben and I thought it would be funny to kill shortkut. He still gets my vote for MVP this game lol.
 

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I didn't question it because I'm sure we've had Zell games with detective, two aura Sealers a spirit seer flaggers and stuff all at the same time, but somehow this just ended up being over the top. this just ended up being over the top.
My issue with the seers was the aura seer equivalent. There were no “unknown” agency roles, so evil or unknown meant evil
 

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As I said in one of the later days: we don't tend to subscribe to the simplest explanations here.
I think part of it is enjoying the theorycrafting element of it and entertaining what is technically possible, I know that's what I do.

It's almost always the simplest explanation, though.
 

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I/we didn't know the double agent was in our chat, and figured it was too OP. I agree with everything Kelly said about his performance, this was pretty much just for the lulz. All the DA had to do was kill the vampire and win with anybody. We had to worry about the DA turning on us, the vampire, and the 800 fucking agency seers. So in the end, I felt that even though he probably would have kept his word about not posting the following day, this was a very mob thing to do. And with the odds, with the vampire gone, we had no path to victory.


We were originally going to resign after Ben was lynched but decided to keep going for one more day just in case. I would have taken two days to kill anyway, but it would have been vote skips and pretty much over already. We didn't want to drag it out when it was an inevitable agency win, buuuuut Ben and I thought it would be funny to kill shortkut. He still gets my vote for MVP this game lol.
I'm sad you didn't sign that the Tomfather...

Missed opportunity.
 
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