VTS Mafia Mafia Legacy Year 2 Sign-Ups

[VashTheStampede]

Oh why not

It's the return of the game I tried to balance towards making it harder for the City but will probably fail again!

Couple new roles to come in addition to the ones unlocked in the last game.

If someone else wants to run a game before this I'm 100% cool with that

IN
1. shortkut
2. TD
3. Dean
4. Alu
5. Smacktard
6. Tubby23
7. Tommy Boy
8. Jawneh
9. Zell
10. Fool's
11. Benzine
12. Jon
13. Local Hero
14. Kat
15. Joseph Snapple
16. canadaguy

 

[TD]

Do you have an estimated start time frame for this?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Do you have an estimated start time frame for this?

No

 

[shortkut]

I’m in, but I decided I’m going to change my playing style this time

 

[TD]

I'll join but my activity is going to be lower during my working hours than what people are used to.

 

[shortkut]

I'll join but my activity is going to be lower during my working hours than what people are used to.

 

[Dean]

 

[A Punched Face]

Yeah I'll join.

 

[Smacktard]

Sign me up.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Sign me up.

Hopefully you get to actually play this time

 

[Smacktard]

Hopefully you get to actually play this time

I didn't really follow the game after I died (except for the flavor posts), so I'm sure I'll be confused and useless the whole time

 

[TD]

 

[canadaguy]

I'll join but my activity is going to be lower during my working hours than what people are used to.

 

[Tubby23]

Crikey I'm in

 

[VashTheStampede]

So I had a role idea that might be absolutely hated but I'm curious as to how it would go down.

The Alderman - If the Alderman is in the game, individual post counts are capped at 50. 51st post results in death.

 

[Tubby23]

Has merit means you need to make your 50 posts valuable

 

[Smacktard]

So I had a role idea that might be absolutely hated but I'm curious as to how it would go down.

The Alderman - If the Alderman is in the game, individual post counts are capped at 50. 51st post results in death.

Doesn't matter what team TD is on, he's coming for them first.

 

[TD]

So I had a role idea that might be absolutely hated but I'm curious as to how it would go down.

The Alderman - If the Alderman is in the game, individual post counts are capped at 50. 51st post results in death.

Just call it what it is.

The Anti-TD.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Just call it what it is.

The Anti-TD.

Now I will be the only shit poster!

 

[A Punched Face]

Well there goes my idea for posting the alphabet one letter at a time twice.

 

[VashTheStampede]

4 people would have died in day 3 of Tubby's game, with Alu just missing the cutoff.

 

[A Punched Face]

Oh shit, I'll just do the greek alphabet. It'll leave me enough to also vote and skip in separate posts.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Seems pretty hypocritical for me of all people to institute such a rule though.

 

[A Punched Face]

Seems pretty hypocritical for me of all people to institute such a rule though.

TDman: when they exist, everyone must post at least 50 times in that thread. If they do not they die.

 

[VashTheStampede]

...omg that actually gives me a real idea

 

[Tubby23]

I'm roleplaying Steve Irwin roleplaying as whatever role I get.

 

[canadaguy]

TBH 50 is still too much

 

[TD]

TDman: when they exist, everyone must post at least 50 times in that thread. If they do not they die.

Now  this is amazing.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I'm roleplaying Steve Irwin roleplaying as whatever role I get.

 

[VashTheStampede]

TDman gonna be tweaked to make people who barely post shitpost a little. 10 post minimum

 

[Tubby23]

I'm pronouncing it TiddyMan in my head

 

[TD]

I'm pronouncing it TiddyMan in my head

The proper pronunciation of TD right here folks.

 

[shortkut]

So I had a role idea that might be absolutely hated but I'm curious as to how it would go down.

The Alderman - If the Alderman is in the game, individual post counts are capped at 50. 51st post results in death.

I approve of you appropriating my idea

 

[VashTheStampede]

I approve of you appropriating my idea

I was already toying with something like this for the new "evidence" mechanic but you and Raine pushed me in this direction

 

[shortkut]

 

[A Punched Face]

Also - on the old forums we had activity requirements in certain games (especially in the heyday of wolf/mafia), so this is no different than that other than a specific role maybe being the one pushing it rather than just existing as a rule?

 

[shortkut]

Also - on the old forums we had activity requirements in certain games (especially in the heyday of wolf/mafia), so this is no different than that other than a specific role maybe being the one pushing it rather than just existing as a rule?

We never learn that almost everyone always plays the same and we vote the same people off anyway. Benzine and those who don’t post much do not get lynched and only die if targeted. Those who post a lot are called sus and die. Since everyone has a 25% chance of being evil (not counting RK and other solos), it leads to a lot of correct lynches for no reason. That and with an evil role you’re more likely to be active because it’s more fun

 

[TD]

Since everyone has a 25% chance of being evil (not counting RK and other solos), it leads to a lot of correct lynches for no reason.

In all the games I've played I've still yet to see an actual lynch happen from someone making a cold read. It always seems to come as the result of some kind of role reveal.

 

[A Punched Face]

We never learn that almost everyone always plays the same and we vote the same people off anyway. Benzine and those who don’t post much do not get lynched and only die if targeted. Those who post a lot are called sus and die. Since everyone has a 25% chance of being evil (not counting RK and other solos), it leads to a lot of correct lynches for no reason. That and with an evil role you’re more likely to be active because it’s more fun

I dunno. I've tended to run under the susbar quite well, generally only being caught when I'm seered or burned alive, or when the time calls for it.

I've probably been evil often enough for this to give some good stats on the matter.

 

[A Punched Face]

In all the games I've played I've still yet to see an actual lynch happen from someone making a cold read. It always seems to come as the result of some kind of role reveal.

Lynched, no. Shot with either bullets or Chlamydia? Yes.

 

[TD]

Lynched, no. Shot with either bullets or Chlamydia? Yes.

It's still an important distinction though. As a group people are too afraid to follow a lynch without a seer read despite cold reads being a real thing.

Kill roles are a bit different cause it's only an individual who has a role they want to have fun with.

 

[shortkut]

In all the games I've played I've still yet to see an actual lynch happen from someone making a cold read. It always seems to come as the result of some kind of role reveal.

@Cole got people lynched by his reveals

I dunno. I've tended to run under the susbar quite well, generally only being caught when I'm seered or burned alive, or when the time calls for it.

I've probably been evil often enough for this to give some good stats on the matter.

You don’t post a lot. Your responses are generally few, measured, and deliberate

Leaks from dead thread:

My biggest thought, and this is for all mafia/wolf/Aussie games, is that there are too many roles in general. I've mentioned this before to Zell. When everyone has a role, no one can hide.

The only time it worked was Benzine's first bell ringer claim and even that didn't last long Eventually, enough other roles were claimed and proven, so his claim was obviously seen as false. That's why at least 50% need to be vanilla. There is a limited pool and it is known or mostly known depending on which game we've played. It becomes easy via process of elimination

 

[VashTheStampede]

Vanilla roles also hurt engagement.

My ultimate plan is to have everyone have a role, but some be "vanilla level" where there's some sort of minor effect, but an effect nontheless.

 

[TD]

@Cole got people lynched by his reveals

On new GW? Cause I haven't seen this.
Even in VTS Mafia people didn't follow him until he explicitly stated he's the seer and Alu is bad.

 

[TD]

Vanilla roles also hurt engagement.

Agreed. The majority of players will become immediately disengaged by a vanilla role.

 

[A Punched Face]

You don’t post a lot. Your responses are generally few, measured, and deliberate

Usually I'm not #1, but I'm almost always top 5 or 6 in any given thread. There are 1-3 people who post a ton, and I'm typically in the second set in terms of activity levels. But seeing this from you also makes it seem that I'm flying under the radar of shit posting.

 

[shortkut]

Vanilla roles also hurt engagement.

My ultimate plan is to have everyone have a role, but some be "vanilla level" where there's some sort of minor effect, but an effect nontheless.

French vanilla, vanilla bean, rainbow colored vanilla?

 

[Zell 17]

@Cole got people lynched by his reveals

You don’t post a lot. Your responses are generally few, measured, and deliberate

Leaks from dead thread:

My biggest thought, and this is for all mafia/wolf/Aussie games, is that there are too many roles in general. I've mentioned this before to Zell. When everyone has a role, no one can hide.

Hiding should never be the goal. Blending in should be. If the game becomes “if the seer randomly checks the wolves they lose, if the seer randomly checks the townies the town loses” then it’s basically a game of chance.

You are right that everyone plays the same way though. In almost all of these games the evils are typically the last people to have any kind of claim l. That extends to “no claim” games too, because there is ALWAYS a way to claim a role. The only way IMO to ban role claiming is to abolish roles.

 

[Zell 17]

It's still an important distinction though. As a group people are too afraid to follow a lynch without a seer read despite cold reads being a real thing.

Kill roles are a bit different cause it's only an individual who has a role they want to have fun with.

Agreed 1000%

 

[shortkut]

Blending in is hiding