All roles completely hidden was great.
I plan to use poll my next game as everyone can be up to date while I sleep
What about if everyone skips and somebody changes their vote after that? Seems like it could get dicey. Otherwise I think it was fine; harder to figure out voting patterns but way easier to know what the current vote is.
Really? Wouldn't it give away way too much info if roles couldn't be duplicated? It'd be pretty much impossible for the wolves to hide.
I think spirit seer is fine but I personally feel the seer wolves to be rather weak especially with the role claim meta.
Old/Current TD hates it.
100%. I feel like we should keep doing this going forward. It actually adds fair challenge, and role claims barely mean shit until proven.
I'm cool with this.
I personally didn't like the poll. Trying to remember to go and check it every so often to see who has decided to switch their votes around wasn't super fun, but I do see the utility to confuse folks, trip people up, and so on.
That’s already how apprentice works, if a seer of any kind does you instantly inherit.
We get told per person.
Wolf Seer - Should be immune to Spirit Seer until it relinquishes
I fucking hate it!
Serious inquiry.Blind Wolf - Should not be immune to Spirit Seer
Blind Wolf - Should also be drastically changed because it invalidates Solo players and outs Strong Villagers basically out of the gate. Two Blind Wolfs is literally Satan as anyone that gives the slightest of fucks about trying to perform well and not just roll their face on the keyboard.
Blind Wolf - Is a shit role, I fucking hate it, I want to destroy it, I want to invent a time machine just to punch the person who came up with it in Wolfsville in the fucking face exactly two seconds before they think of it!
Why not? Zell's reasoning that he wants people to believe all role combinations are possible makes sense to me.
I am cooking something up, but I'm still in the process of creating everything with a couple twists. i'm gonna make a post about it soon, but I'm still a bit away from being able to run it I think. Probably at least a week. Plus with the holidays around the corner I don't know if this is a poor time to start and try.
I thought it said it activates the next day? Maybe I'm remembering wrong. But if so, then it's cool.
Agreed. Def in this random game. Would be much better if there was a full or partial list of strongs to make a better judgement on who to kill.
Should be fine. Specially if a wolf claims seer and they die during confusion or some other trickery there'd still be utility from the role. Thought much less so.
It was only the specific wolves. Those just got stacked in this game. Didn't make a blip of difference this time around other than making it easier for wolves to spell lies, which is what we still want to culture in our games a bit more.
Personally, I think it's weird to have multiple wolves that avoid the spirit seer. If it was the special ability of a particular wolf to avoid seers, that I can understand.
I was the last person to vote in pretty much every poll if that helps you.I mean look at this shit you goobers!
Yeah, it's worded badly. Basically what I was trying to get around was the case where an Aura Seer makes a check, gets killed by friendly fire (Witch or whatever). The Seer Apprentice wouldn't be able to inherit and use the Aura Seer ability that same night. Essentially that would allow the "Aura Seer role" two checks in one night period.
If it's going to show as red, I agree, just get rid of it.
Wolves usually figure out the solo role pretty quickly anyway. It's to their benefit to keep the solo alive for a while, so it's not that big of a deal. I'm not sure that killing all the strong roles at the beginning of the game even helped them this game. Strong roles are often double edged swords. How many times would FR and I have thrown rocks at townies, given the chance? I bet at least a couple.
Sure, but most of the roles don't make any sense. How is the witch forcing paranoid people to drink poison? How can the violinist check roles by who is mourning the recently dead person when the person being checked doesn't even know the role of the dead person? How can a warden drop an invisible weapon without a wolf being able to tell?
Then removing Blind Wolf would still accomplish that.
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The Strong Villagers are the only things genuinely stopping the wolves from running amok. FR was killed Night 0 because of a Blind Wolf, you were killed Night 1 because of a Blind Wolf, it's up in the air why I died Day 2 but the wolves knew from Night 0 I was a Strong. I very much assume I wasn't night killed because of TD but all the same every single wolf save him voted for me.
That's the entire point though? You see 2 players a night, 4 if you have two Blind Wolves. On top of whatever else the wolves have. It literally does not matter that you get less information, the only thing that matters if that you know with certainty that the person (or people) you just checked are indeed Strong.
Eh, I don't think it would've mattered.
Oh, he 100% was #9 on you before switching off at some point. I was trying to keep track of that lol.every single wolf save him voted for me.
Same roles as this game?Alright you gluttons:
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