Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 4

[Benzine]

I've been trying to read while preparing dinner/cleaning up all the mess I made/looking after child so that I was up to date when I come to sit down (before watching bball and eating dinner).

Someone has mentioned we might win soon? Or that it's like 2 wolves left? Surely there are three wolves left and no point talking otherwise. We are either in don't misstep mode or one step away from it asai am concerned...

 

[Jon]

To be clear to whoever asked why don't I have info, it's cause GwJumpman was a solo role and no one can be on their team, so anyone I search shows as not on GwJumpan's team.

Well, that and Alu's death was blocked.

 

[Benzine]

What wolf roles do we know

I hate the apprentice role because it's just a convenient/inconvenient role to have late in the game with no power haha.

 

[Jon]

Someone has mentioned we might win soon? Or that it's like 2 wolves left? Surely there are three wolves left and no point talking otherwise. We are either in don't misstep mode or one step away from it asai am concerned...

1-2 wolves left. TD and Kelly were both wolves. If you're really the violinist, then Raposuh is town and there are 2 left.

 

[Benzine]

Well, that and Alu's death was blocked.

not quite jon it's only that, because it's just the first person to die - and the corrupter kill goes first.

 

[Benzine]

1-2 wolves left. TD and Kelly were both wolves. If you're really the violinist, then Raposuh is town and there are 2 left.

yeah that's right haha forgot already. yes there are 2 cause kit raposa is definitely not on the same team as kelly

 

[Jawneh]

Seems like a waste of the power, but I suppose.

It's my best guess. And anyone playing a wolf knows it's a tough thing to not burn powers without losing them. That's how I'd try to use it if possible. Taking towns lynch for the wolves is big.

What wolf roles do we know

Kelly = Blind
TD = Nightmare

 

[Jon]

What wolf roles do we know

I hate the apprentice role because it's just a convenient/inconvenient role to have late in the game with no power haha.

Blind and Nightmare are dead.

We're operating under the assumption Tommy is legit and was voodoo'd, which would mean there is a voodoo wolf. No other roles are known or suspected.

I suspected yesterday there was a blind AND seer wolf, but with TD outed as a wolf, it's not likely.

The biggest question is if TD was clearing 2 wolves night 1 when he cleared Local and Kelly.

 

[Benzine]

I'd fake a voodoo for sure it means nothing

 

[Benzine]

double fake the voodoo powers on two wolves - when in reality they have a guardian wolf.

 

[Benzine]

brb looking up what the voodoo even does

 

[Jon]

double fake the voodoo powers on two wolves - when in reality they have a guardian wolf.

That would mean you're saying Local and Tommy are the last two wolves with one being a guardian?

 

[Benzine]

That would mean you're saying Local and Tommy are the last two wolves with one being a guardian?

that would be that situation, i don't believe anything yet.

i kinda like it though.

 

[Benzine]

for the sorcerers apprentice, i do think that if you were a wolf, after 9 games of this at least you would probably know better than to choose something as "obvious" as apprentice.

but it is jawneh

 

[Jawneh]

Dropped my thing on Local.

Also skip.

We can now also game Benzine and Jon's powers to get us one one more check. Unless there's another nightmare out there. If we trust Benzine, we can protect him, check a person we think is the naughtiest and see what we have tomorrow.

 

[Jawneh]

for the sorcerers apprentice, i do think that if you were a wolf, after 9 games of this at least you would probably know better than to choose something as "obvious" as apprentice.

I'll give you that. I was more excited to use this to nab a seer role that the town didn't know / hadn't confirmed from trickster/confusion/corruptor. Made it so much better when Raine thought I was a loudmouth so the wolves were deterred from getting me.

 

[Jon]

Dropped my thing on Local.

Also skip.

We can now also game Benzine and Jon's powers to get us one one more check. Unless there's another nightmare out there. If we trust Benzine, we can protect him, check a person we think is the naughtiest and see what we have tomorrow.

I am fine with this route.

Just know that if I survive tonight, the wolves are fucking high as shit lol. So, I can protect Benzine, but I'll likely be their target, which I'm fine with for the greater good.

I will say this though... Would give Benzine one night to check against Vash either way.

 

[Jon]

I don't think we learn anything else without more death, sadly, so I'll drop my vote on Local and skip as well.

If Local is town, we lose anyway.

 

[Jawneh]

@Benzine I got a game plan. Up to you if you go with this.

Check Tommy. If he comes out as town, tomorrow we lynch Dean who then targets me. You would still be left alive with kut, Town wins.

 

[Jawneh]

If Local is town, we lose anyway.

Not necessarily. Tommy can get an extra vote. Dean has avenger kill. Maybe wolves dont kill you and we got a protection. We will get tomorrow for sure.

 

[Jon]

Like I said, i'm ok with the plan. I don't like telegraphing my target because it gives the wolves their targets, but I am almost certainly dead anyway. Best case, Local is a wolf and then it SHOULD be either Tommy or Dean as the last one... Or you... That you're willing to have Dean target you makes me give you the benefit of the doubt.

But could leave us open if Benzine is playing us. @Local Hero if you are a wolf, you're going to get lynched here, no need to hide behind the voodoo claim.

If you're town, my apologies in advance.

I still think we can skip and start moving this to the endgame.

 

[Jon]

Not necessarily. Tommy can get an extra vote. Dean has avenger kill. Maybe wolves dont kill you and we got a protection. We will get tomorrow for sure.

Again, if Local is a townie and so is Raposuh, we won't. Local's death would leave us 3-2, wolf kill would bring us 2-2. We do need to hit a wolf here.

EDIT - Which would indicate to me you were a wolf and kudos to you for orchestrating the wolf win. Well played.

 

[Jawneh]

... it's 5-2 right now Jon lol.

 

[Jon]

Fuuuuuuuuuuck... you're right, my bad. I keep missing Kut because of where he is on my sheet.... Sorry!

EDIT - Solid plan then, let's kill 'em.

 

[Jon]

@Local Hero
@shortkut
@Benzine
@Tommy Boy
@Dean

If you guys are ready, we can skip and move on. Jawneh and I have already put our skips in @Zell 17.

 

[Jon]

We can also probably skip night phases once all night actions are in, my guess would be.

 

[shortkut]

@shortkut who do you think is what

Most suspicious of local
Next suspicion level has Jawneh, Dean,

Tommy was Voodoo'd. This tells us there is a remaining voodoo wolf.

Unless Tommy was lying

Also, skip

 

[shortkut]

@Zell 17 how many skips to actually skip?

And should we be worrying about people unskipping?

 

[Jon]

And should we be worrying about people unskipping?

 

[shortkut]

 

[Jawneh]

 

[Zell 17]

Skips (6 required):

Jawneh, Jon, shortkut

 

[Dean]

I will vote to skip

 

[Zell 17]

Skips (6 required):

Jawneh, Jon, shortkut, Dean

 

[shortkut]

Skips (6 required):

Jawneh, Jon, shortkut, Dean

@Benzine @Tommy Boy skip please

 

[Tommy Boy]

Shit sorry fell asleep without checking again last night

Vote Skip

 

[Tommy Boy]

So I know we’re all skipping and everything has already been discussed, but I just want to make sure I’m on the same page since I was absent yesterday and today is going pretty fast.

We’re not 100% on Dean yet but we’re putting up Local Hero instead because with TD coming out as evil, this discredits local’s claim of Bell Ringer? Is that right? It doesn’t look like he’s posted or reacted today so I don’t think he can defend himself, but it seems like everyone is certain so I’m going with it. The seer apprentice claim is more or less just as difficult to prove, though. So I feel kind of weird about this one.

Everyone who says they have powers: make sure to target someone tonight appropriately. Benzine, you should be targeting me. Jon, you should be targeting whoever you feel needs to be kept safe to tomorrow. Dean, you should be targeting the person who is most likely wolf in your opinion. Shortkut, hay doods.

 

[Dean]

So I know we’re all skipping and everything has already been discussed, but I just want to make sure I’m on the same page since I was absent yesterday and today is going pretty fast.

We’re not 100% on Dean yet but we’re putting up Local Hero instead because with TD coming out as evil, this discredits local’s claim of Bell Ringer? Is that right? It doesn’t look like he’s posted or reacted today so I don’t think he can defend himself, but it seems like everyone is certain so I’m going with it. The seer apprentice claim is more or less just as difficult to prove, though. So I feel kind of weird about this one.

Everyone who says they have powers: make sure to target someone tonight appropriately. Benzine, you should be targeting me. Jon, you should be targeting whoever you feel needs to be kept safe to tomorrow. Dean, you should be targeting the person who is most likely wolf in your opinion. Shortkut, hay doods.

I don't agree with me being the second most sus. Literally the whole reason I was suspicious in the first place is I was too busy with work and my wife being sick to get active until day two or whenever. Literally nothing supports me being suspicious. I've voted with the town, have helped eliminate a wolf or two, and moved off known townies when presented with evidence. People want to cling onto some idea that I am suspicious while Local, Jawneh, and Benzine are every bit as suspicious if not moreso. But that's show biz.

 

[Dean]

For the record, yet again, order of susness (IMO obviously)

#1 Local
#2 Jawneh
#3 Benzine
#4 Tommy
#5 Jon
#6 shortkut

Edit: If we are wrong about Local, then I figure I'll be on the chopping block tomorrow, even though I originally wanted to go after Jawneh and voted for Jawneh. But again, it is what it is.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I don't agree with me being the second most sus. Literally the whole reason I was suspicious in the first place is I was too busy with work and my wife being sick to get active until day two or whenever. Literally nothing supports me being suspicious. I've voted with the town, have helped eliminate a wolf or two, and moved off known townies when presented with evidence. People want to cling onto some idea that I am suspicious while Local, Jawneh, and Benzine are every bit as suspicious if not moreso. But that's show biz.

Heard. Your role makes you more suspicious to me than your activity. I totally get real life stuff, not penalizing real life at all. It's just that you seemingly have the last kill role left, and it's a revenge kill. You have played like a townie and acted like a townie to me, but I half-believe you either way. So that's why I just hope you have your target set to who you think is bad if anything goes sideways.

But you're right, there's no way to corroborate any of the remaining roles are what they say they are. It's unfair to make you more sus given the information we have, I concede. But I will say again that the fact that your role can kill makes it a little more volatile.

 

[Jawneh]

I don't agree with me being the second most sus. Literally the whole reason I was suspicious in the first place is I was too busy with work and my wife being sick to get active until day two or whenever. Literally nothing supports me being suspicious. I've voted with the town, have helped eliminate a wolf or two, and moved off known townies when presented with evidence. People want to cling onto some idea that I am suspicious while Local, Jawneh, and Benzine are every bit as suspicious if not moreso. But that's show biz.

You're not really the second most sus, but still sus and we can just use your role to our advantage to check you and me at the same time.

Like, I'm not 100% sold on either Benzine or Jon as I don't got enough in my mind to completely unwolf them, but I got no way to check them. We got a decent plan atm I feel, and I believe even after it all we still get one more free lynch of a wolf.

Like, the worst case scenario is if Benzine and Jon are taking us all on a ride very convincingly. But that's for tomorrow.

 

[Dean]

 

[Dean]

 

[shortkut]

 

[Dean]

One bad thing about the ol Voodoo Wolf is if one player is silenced and the other player is the wolf, then we have to wait the whole phase.

For example, if Local or Benzine is the wolf and the other is silenced, we might be stuck waiting.

But it's around 7 or 8 am over in Kiwi Land, so hopefully Benzine will be up and at 'em soon.

 

[Jon]

Like, the worst case scenario is if Benzine and Jon are taking us all on a ride very convincingly. But that's for tomorrow.

If I had to play the long term full deception game as a wolf I think I may die lol. I'm fine not being 100% vindicated but I promise I couldn't play that style twice in a row. i'd have been outed and dead already lol.

Also, Dean, this is less about sus at this point and more about being able to use purported abilities to win it for the town, as Jawneh said. We can check Tommy with Benzine which will hopefully tell us about you two. I'll protect Benzine to likely draw the wolves to attack me instead of him. Then if we lynch you while targeting Jawneh, we check the two of you. It's a sound plan.

One that can backfire horribly, but it IS a sound plan.

 

[Jawneh]

 

[Jon]

@Local, you can still skip if you are Voodoo'd. @Benzine, you skipping will push this to next phase as well.

 

[Dean]

It says @Local Hero has read this thread.

@Zell 17 can a player who's been Voodoo'd by the Voodoo Wolf read the thread at all during the phase in which they are Voodoo'd or are they blocked entirely?

 

[Zell 17]

Muted players (by librarian or by Voodoo) get thread banned. Just stops them from being able to reply and react, they can view or do anything else.

And they can PM me to skip