Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version3 Night 1/Day 1

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 4 (Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, TD, VashTheStampede)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Fool's Requiem - 1 (Local Hero)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 6 (Raposa, TD, Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, Local Hero, VashTheStampede,)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp

 

[Local Hero]

Now here's an interesting twist. Do you have something?

I have nothing other than seeing Cole and him go back and forth, and agreeing with Cole's take that Fool's strategy is bad.

 

[Cole]

I have nothing other than seeing Cole and him go back and forth, and agreeing with Cole's take that Fool's strategy is bad.

I missed you, Sam. Nicest guy on GW, the voice of reason. Welcome back, buddy.

 

[Local Hero]

If Cole isn't a wolf, and Fool is also a townie, then what Fool is suggesting will claim two townies and zero wolves.

Am I wrong?

 

[Holly]

I'm staying out of it. This is a long day phase and we're only on page 6. We need to set a new record for longest Day 1 post again.

 

[Raposuh]

I have nothing other than seeing Cole and him go back and forth, and agreeing with Cole's take that Fool's strategy is bad.

His strat is bad, but is it also wrong? Is it so bad it's wrong? As some call it, badong?

 

[Holly]

GDI Hero, you sent a split-second before me.

Yes, that seems to be the case.

 

[VashTheStampede]

If Cole isn't a wolf, and Fool is also a townie, then what Fool is suggesting will claim two townies and zero wolves.

Am I wrong?

Is it even possible for them to be on the same side right now? If Cole is a townie, that makes Fool a liar, right?

 

[TD]

@VashTheStampede
Are we doing the exact same thing again?

 

[Local Hero]

Is it even possible for them to be on the same side right now? If Cole is a townie, that makes Fool a liar, right?

Is he saying he has proof? How would he? What role would give him that info? (I'm a noob I'm sorry)

 

[VashTheStampede]

@VashTheStampede
Are we doing the exact same thing again?

 

[Holly]

Is he saying he has proof? How would he? What role would give him that info? (I'm a noob I'm sorry)

This game has a lot of reading between the lines.

 

[Cole]

Is it even possible for them to be on the same side right now? If Cole is a townie, that makes Fool a liar, right?

It depends on a lot of factors, NONE OF WHICH he's sharing.

And I know, pot, kettle, black. Dropping a big bomb like that without information. But if people consider fools repeating my strategy the same as me performing that strategy, then just someone kill me right now.

He could be claiming spirit seer, have investigated TWO people, one of whom was a wolf, and it came up red.

He could be claiming tough guy and he protected me and I was attacked.

He could just be practicing his town-based-lying to lynch me personally.

He could be a wolf just setting me up for a quick fall to set up hi s team. theres a lot of options.

 

[Local Hero]

This game has a lot of reading between the lines.

 

[Ryan!]

Fool's is being awfully quiet and persistent. Not gonna lie, he seems shady to me.

 

[Local Hero]

Fool's is being awfully quiet and persistent. Not gonna lie, he seems shady to me.

You're finally making some sense

 

[Ryan!]

Oh I've been making sense the whole time. I'm assuming Cole is smart enough to pick up on it. Vash as well.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Hmm.

Gonna vote  abstain while i eat a sammich and contemplate.

 

[Cole]

Fool's is being awfully quiet and persistent. Not gonna lie, he seems shady to me.

Alright, well when he comes in here with his "I AM THE SPIRIT SEER AND SINCE I AM GOOD AT THE GAME I CHECKED COLE LAST NIGHT ALONG WITH (whoever) AND IT WAS RED, THAT MEANS COLE IS A WOLF. PLEASE DONT KILL ME!" you know who said it first.

In fact, chances are he comes in and claims he only checked ME last night.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 3 (Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, TD)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Fool's Requiem - 1 (Local Hero)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, VashTheStampede

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 6 (Raposa, TD, Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, Local Hero, VashTheStampede)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh Zell I'm not voting skip, I'm just a stupid jokester

I'll definitely bold and real vote I make

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh I'm gonna glare at that typo for a while...

 

[TD]

Oh also - I'm not losing out on discussion.
No skip.

Skipping only helps the wolves at this point, the more info we can get the day 1, even if speculative, the better.

The more someone talks, the higher the chances of slipping up, and that's why wolves often stay quiet.

Those who are quiet and not saying much are the ones we should be keeping an eye on.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 3 (Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, TD)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Fool's Requiem - 1 (Local Hero)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, VashTheStampede

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 4 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, Local Hero)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, TD, VashTheStampede

 

[Cole]

Oh also - I'm not losing out on discussion.
No skip.

Skipping only helps the wolves at this point, the more info we can get the day 1, even if speculative, the better.

The more someone talks, the higher the chances of slipping up, and that's why wolves often stay quiet.

Those who are quiet and not saying much are the ones we should be keeping an eye on.

Tactical skipping that Fools did.

Another strategy I used last game. Seems like he's watching reruns.

 

[Local Hero]

Skip - 4 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, Local Hero)

Can I take back my vote skip? I meant abstain in the beginning. I'm sticking with voting for FR (for now)

 

[Ryan!]

I also voted No skip

 

[VashTheStampede]

I voted for Kodos

 

[Raposuh]

I voted for Kodos

If you know a better way to exchange long protein strands, I'd like to hear it!

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 3 (Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, TD)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Fool's Requiem - 1 (Local Hero)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, VashTheStampede

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 2 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, TD, VashTheStampede, Ryan!, Local Hero

 

[Ants!]

Alright, well when he comes in here with his "I AM THE SPIRIT SEER AND SINCE I AM GOOD AT THE GAME I CHECKED COLE LAST NIGHT ALONG WITH (whoever) AND IT WAS RED, THAT MEANS COLE IS A WOLF. PLEASE DONT KILL ME!" you know who said it first.

In fact, chances are he comes in and claims he only checked ME last night.

You know if we end up lynching him and he is the spirit seer, you’re toast, right?

 

[Local Hero]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 3 (Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, TD)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Fool's Requiem - 1 (Local Hero)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, VashTheStampede

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 2 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, TD, VashTheStampede, Ryan!, Local Hero

Am I reading this wrong, Zell? I'm in no vote and vote section? Voting for Fool's Requiem

 

[Ryan!]

You know if we end up lynching him and he is the spirit seer, you’re toast, right?

Pretty sure Cole is well aware of that.

 

[Zell 17]

Am I reading this wrong, Zell? I'm in no vote and vote section? Voting for Fool's Requiem

There's two separate votes, who to lynch and whether or not to skip the rest of the phase.

You are voting for FR, but not to skip the phase.

 

[Ants!]

Voting Raposa for mixing up FF7 and Sesame Street that way.

 

[Ants!]

No skip

 

[Local Hero]

Am I reading this wrong, Zell? I'm in no vote and vote section? Voting for Fool's Requiem

Which means we should vote for Fool to start. If we vote Cole, and Come is good, then we're voting Fool next. That could be two townies down for nothing.

If we just vote for Fool, then we'll know if we need to vote Cole next or not. Right?

Edit, meant to reply to ants:
You know if we end up lynching him and he is the spirit seer, you’re toast, right?

 

[Ants!]

Pretty sure Cole is well aware of that.

I’m mostly stating it for the public record.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Which means we should vote for Fool to start. If we vote Cole, and Come is good, then we're voting Fool next. That could be two townies down for nothing.

If we just vote for Fool, then we'll know if we need to vote Cole next or not. Right?

So why not the other way around?

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 3 (Fool's Requiem, Ryan!, TD)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Fool's Requiem - 1 (Local Hero)
Raposa - 1 (Ants!)

No vote - aura seer, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, VashTheStampede

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 2 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, TD, VashTheStampede, Ryan!, Local Hero

 

[Raposuh]

Voting Raposa for mixing up FF7 and Sesame Street that way.

This is very sus because these are two great things that go well together, like reeses peanut butter and chocolate.

 

[Zell 17]

This is very sus because these are two great things that go well together, like reeses peanut butter and chocolate.

And pineapple and pizza

 

[Raposuh]

Also if anybody hasn't seen muppet treasure island in awhile, it still really holds up. And I love pirate based media.

 

[Ants!]

Priest do your suicide on one of these two so we know who’s not wolf.

 

[Ryan!]

Maybe I'm getting played. Maybe I'm absolutely right. I don't know yet. But I'm more than willing to sack a knight to damage pawn structure and open my H file.

Voting Fool's Requiem

 

[TD]

Which means we should vote for Fool to start. If we vote Cole, and Come is good, then we're voting Fool next. That could be two townies down for nothing.

If we just vote for Fool, then we'll know if we need to vote Cole next or not. Right?

The logic is hypothetically sound, but your way could also result in two townies down.

Last game - Day 1 was basically townie on townie action.

It's entirely possible Fool has been somehow misguided and that Cole is a townie. I haven't fully caught up on every possible role interaction, but knowing how the last game went I wouldn't be surprised. All our major day 1 candidates were townies.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 2 (Fool's Requiem, TD)
Fool's Requiem - 2 (Local Hero, Ryan!)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Raposa - 1 (Ants!)

No vote - aura seer, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, VashTheStampede

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 2 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Warp, TD, VashTheStampede, Ryan!, Local Hero

 

[Cole]

Which means we should vote for Fool to start. If we vote Cole, and Come is good, then we're voting Fool next. That could be two townies down for nothing.

If we just vote for Fool, then we'll know if we need to vote Cole next or not. Right?

no, you don't have enough information to lynch Fool either.

Day 1 voting is still dumb, I used it tactically in the previous game, and even with all that information, we ended with an abstention.

Stop wasting a vote on Fools when we have NO IDEA if he's a townie or not.

you guys are making the same mistake you nearly made the last game, the same mistake that got the Priest Killed.

If there were two gunners last game, you would've had him kill me and fucked that all up too.

Does no one but me learn anything abou tthese games?

 

[VashTheStampede]

GUYS ZELL IS TYPING, CHANGE YOUR VOTES

 

[Zell 17]

GUYS ZELL IS TYPING, CHANGE YOUR VOTES

It's not so bad when I'm at a computer but I feel like an ape trying to keep up on my phone