Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version Night 1/Day 1/Night 2

[Zell 17]

Greetings friends,

The roles have been sent out. The role dictionary can be found here:

Zell Wolf - Zell Wolf Role Dictionary and Hall of Fame

In an effort to consolidate, I'm going to list all the roles / potential roles along with DETAILED role information. In future games you would just get a PM from me that says "Your role is XXXX". Strong Villagers: Bully Aura: Unknown During the day, can hit a player with a rock and give them a...

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Please reread the rules as some have changed. First, here is a list of players:

@a first name
@Raposa
@Ryan!
@Fool's Requiem
@canadaguy
@shortkut
@Benzine
@Warp
@Ants!
@Tommy Boy
@Cole
@Dean
@Tubby23
@VashTheStampede
@TD
@Holly

And here are the roles:

Village team:
Aura Seer
Spirit Seer
Tough Guy
Gunner
Jailer
Priest
Medium

Three villagers will get random roles from the following list:

Aura Seer
Spirit Seer
Flower Child
Tough Guy
Bodyguard
Beast Hunter
Witch
Marksman
Avenger
Loudmouth
Red Lady
Priest
Sheriff
Doctor

Wolf team:
Nightmare Werewolf
Wolf Seer
Wolf Avenger
Random Werewolf

The random werewolf can be any of the 8 wolves listed in the dictionary.

Solo team:
Fool

Solo team:
Random Killer

The random killer can be any of the 4 killers listed in the dictionary.

Rules:
Nights will be 12 hours and days will be 36 hours. The end of the next period will be clearly posted. Nights will run from 9 pm ET to 9 am ET.

You may edit your posts for clarity. If you edit out an action (like shooting someone) and you get caught I'm killing you.

You have unlimited vote changes. This includes voting nobody. The day expiration time of 9 pm will be strictly enforced. If your post / vote is at 9 pm or later, it will be discarded. People can have a flurry of late vote changes to lynch someone, but of course the consequences of doing that will be noticed by the village. Only your last vote will be counted. Votes must be in Bold to be counted. Please vote in the format I vote XXXX to make it easy for me.

There will be a minimum number of votes required to lynch. Usually this number will be around the number of villagers / 2. In the event of a tie, nobody is lynched. In the event that the minimum number of votes is not reached, nobody is lynched.

Night events will go in the following priority order regardless of when the PMs are sent to me:

Wolf Nightmare
Wolf Shaman
Medium revive
Wolf seer check
Doctor protect
Bodyguard protect
Witch protect
Tough Guy protect
Detective check
Aura Seer check
Marksman shot
Witch kill (if not killed by marksman, otherwise potion unused)
Jailer kill (if not killed by marksman/witch)
Red Lady visit
Solo killer kill
Wolves kill
Spirit Seer check

Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads. This is honor system. When you die, you will gain access to a special forum that is already set up. The medium has access to this forum already. If you are revived by the medium, you will lose access. Please use this forum for all discussion by dead players about the game. Alive players can talk during the main thread during the day.

It is possible, if very unlikely, for the game to end in a tie if every single player is killed. The game also ends in a tie if there are no deaths for three straight days and nights.

Winning Conditions:

Village: Kill all wolves and the solo killer

Wolves: Kill the solo killer. Once the wolves make up half the total players and the solo killer is dead, the wolves win, regardless of the roles remaining.

Fool: Get lynched

Solo killer: Be the last player remaining with all other players dead.

The night starts now. I will send PM reminders to those roles with potential night actions. Day starts 9 am ET Thursday, with some wiggle room to make sure everyone has had a chance to see this topic.

 

[Zell 17]

Dawn has broken. The villagers gather to find Alu torn to shreds by a pack of wild animals. The villagers rejoiced as they could never really remember what his name was anyways.

Alu was the Aura Seer.

@Ant Ass Tablets
@Raposa
@Ryan!
@Fool's Requiem
@canadaguy
@shortkut
@Benzine
@Warp
@Ants!
@Tommy Boy
@Cole
@Dean
@Tubby23
@VashTheStampede
@TD
@Holly

Today will be 36 hours (until 9 pm tomorrow) unless shortened via skip.

7 votes are required to lynch.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

That fucking sucks.

 

[Ants!]

That fucking sucks.

If I’m reading the rules right, it looks like there can be up to five townie seers. Let’s hope we got a few more.

 

[Ants!]

Also possible that Alu could have hit gold with his reading last night an can communicate that with the medium.

 

[Zell 17]

I updated the main post to note that 7 votes will be required to lynch today.

 

[shortkut]

So… since no one is really saying anything I’ll start things off with my signature I vote for @Ants! with the understanding that I will probably change this before the end of the day. Discuss.

 

[Raposuh]

I was planning to throw a joke vote out for Awooo, but then his name got changed again. And the he got eaten by wolves, so I'm really left adrift here.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Voting Tommy Boy, surely he didn't get The Fool in back to back games, right?

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Ants! - 1 (shortkut)
Tommy Boy - 1 (Fool's Requiem)

No vote - Raposa, Ryan!, canadaguy, Benzine, Warp, Ants!, Tommy Boy, Cole, Dean, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, TD, Holly

Votes to skip (14 required):

No vote - Raposa, Ryan!, canadaguy, shortkut, Benzine, Fool's Requiem, Warp, Ants!, Tommy Boy, Cole, Dean, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, TD, Holly

 

[Ants!]

36 hours is a long time, so for now I’m going to wait and see if one of our information-gathering roles got lucky last night and can give us more to go on.

 

[shortkut]

36 hours is a long time, so for now I’m going to wait and see if one of our information-gathering roles got lucky last night and can give us more to go on.

Just tell us your role and we can move on from this

 

[Cole]

36 hours is a long time, so for now I’m going to wait and see if one of our information-gathering roles got lucky last night and can give us more to go on.

well well well, look whos asking to expose roles again. HMMMM

 

[Tubby23]

Losing the Seer on Night 1, could things have started any worse?
Hopefully he can pass his info via the medium to at least help us somewhat

 

[Ants!]

well well well, look whos asking to expose roles again. HMMMM

What you and kut did day/night 1 was damn effective, I know better than anybody lol. And I’m not completely against role claiming, I only ever had concerns about it potentially breaking the game mechanics. But let’s avoid that debate entirely this time and play the game

 

[Ryan!]

I was going to vote Alu day one because his name was Awooo. Then it switched and it didn't make it funny anymore. Before that I was gonna vote canadaguy for the angry react.

A day one vote with the Fool still out there is a terrible plan without more information.

I am voting  Abstain and not voting to skip so we can get more intel

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Calling it right now, @Ryan! is The Fool. I have 0 proof to back this up.

 

[Ants!]

Calling it right now, @Ryan! is The Fool. I have 0 proof to back this up.

But it’s in your name so you’re the most sus for that role.

 

[Ants!]

I’m going to be working in an area with poor cellular reception for the next few hours so if I go mysteriously quiet for a little while that is why.

 

[Ryan!]

Calling it right now, @Ryan! is The Fool. I have 0 proof to back this up.

Calling it right now that you're a Wolf trying to start a bandwagon on someone you know is a townie. Tommy makes a good target for Wolf Seer out the gate considering last game. You could actively know what his role is. Maybe you got lucky and found the Doctor or Medium day one. Toss out a lol vote seeming to be in jest based on my day one comment about stats.

What were you up to last night, FR?

 

[TD]

Ryan seems trustworthy to me and his logic seems sound.

I vote Fool's Requiem.
For now.

 

[Raposuh]

Calling it right now that you're a Wolf trying to start a bandwagon on someone you know is a townie. Tommy makes a good target for Wolf Seer out the gate considering last game. You could actively know what his role is. Maybe you got lucky and found the Doctor or Medium day one. Toss out a lol vote seeming to be in jest based on my day one comment about stats.

What were you up to last night, FR?

Please explain your reasoning for Tommy being a good candidate for wolf seer based on a separate game? What were you up to last night, Ryan?

 

[Ryan!]

Please explain your reasoning for Tommy being a good candidate for wolf seer based on a separate game? What were you up to last night, Ryan?

He was the Fool previous game. Ants! also used his Wolf Seer power on him night two and figured that out, but died before the information could be properly used.

The way I figured it, the best candidates for the Wolf Seer night one would have been Cole, Kut, or Tommy just based on the previous game. If they took my little stats comment from the game prior seriously, they could have wondered what he did get as a role and spied on him.

The immediate jump to a lol vote makes me think Tommy isn't a Wolf at all and FR may have just gotten lucky to find a vital townie role that we're going to need. The Doctor is a random role that could be in play with infinite protects. The Medium can revive someone. The Spirit Seer can tell if a person killed someone last night. The Tough Guy can protect someone and then reveal who attacked the person they protected next day. All of these are good candidates to get rid of. FR tossing out what he wants us to think is some random joke vote is extremely suspicious. On a day one with almost no information and the Fool at play still, it's not good to vote for anyone without anything to go on. But if they outright know Tommy isn't the Fool, they could get a bandwagon going and get us to vote out one of our own vital roles.

FR is currently at thr top of my suspects list.

 

[Ryan!]

As far as my nocturnal activities go, I was out strolling the town looking for anything to go on and hoping I wasn't mauled to death by a Wolf.

 

[Cole]

Alright, I have identified one of the wolves, and LET ME TELL YOU, I am so excited to lynch them.

 

[Tubby23]

He was the Fool previous game. Ants! also used his Wolf Seer power on him night two and figured that out, but died before the information could be properly used.

The way I figured it, the best candidates for the Wolf Seer night one would have been Cole, Kut, or Tommy just based on the previous game. If they took my little stats comment from the game prior seriously, they could have wondered what he did get as a role and spied on him.

The immediate jump to a lol vote makes me think Tommy isn't a Wolf at all and FR may have just gotten lucky to find a vital townie role that we're going to need. The Doctor is a random role that could be in play with infinite protects. The Medium can revive someone. The Spirit Seer can tell if a person killed someone last night. The Tough Guy can protect someone and then reveal who attacked the person they protected next day. All of these are good candidates to get rid of. FR tossing out what he wants us to think is some random joke vote is extremely suspicious. On a day one with almost no information and the Fool at play still, it's not good to vote for anyone without anything to go on. But if they outright know Tommy isn't the Fool, they could get a bandwagon going and get us to vote out one of our own vital roles.

FR is currently at thr top of my suspects list.

Perhaps FR could also be the Fool and has thrown out that vote so that we lynch him and he wins?
What you said has some plausibility though.

I'm not yet comfortable lynching in anyone personally so voting to Abstain

 

[Fool's Requiem]

What were you up to last night, FR?

Sleeping.

 

[shortkut]

Alright, I have identified one of the wolves, and LET ME TELL YOU, I am so excited to lynch them.

I’m excited to vote for the wolf you found. Who is it?

 

[Ryan!]

Alright, I have identified one of the wolves, and LET ME TELL YOU, I am so excited to lynch them.

Do tell. I'm interested in the reasoning.

 

[Tubby23]

I'm interested and it's nearly time for bed so now I'm going to be lying awake until you tell us

 

[VashTheStampede]

Alright, I have identified one of the wolves, and LET ME TELL YOU, I am so excited to lynch them.

This is about justice, not revenge.

...watched Batman Begins with the kids recently...

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Ants! - 1 (shortkut)
Tommy Boy - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
Fool's Requiem - 1 (TD)

No vote - Raposa, Ryan!, canadaguy, Benzine, Warp, Ants!, Tommy Boy, Cole, Dean, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, Holly

Votes to skip (14 required):

No vote - Raposa, Ryan!, canadaguy, shortkut, Benzine, Fool's Requiem, Warp, Ants!, Tommy Boy, Cole, Dean, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, TD, Holly

 

[Ryan!]

Perhaps FR could also be the Fool and has thrown out that vote so that we lynch him and he wins?
What you said has some plausibility though.

I'm not yet comfortable lynching in anyone personally so voting to Abstain

This is also entirely plausible. I'm not perfect. I've misread situations before. I was convinced last game Jawneh was a Wolf and Kat was innocent. I wholeheartedly admit I could be wrong. But it just seems fishy and doesn't pass the smell test.

 

[Ryan!]

TD is also raising my suspicion a bit to be actively jumping on someone just based on my reasoning. Yeah, FR is shady af, but I can't confirm anything right now. It's a feeling I have. Why so eager to just go with it when we have so many dangers?

 

[Tommy Boy]

Voting Tommy Boy, surely he didn't get The Fool in back to back games, right?

Any reason? The chances of me being the fool again are so low. Well, I guess they're 1:16 but still lol, the heck?

Voting abstain, would love to hear what Cole's thoughts are on the wolf suspicion.

 

[Raposuh]

Voting Abstain officially until we have a clear, non-fool target.

 

[Holly]

I'm heading out and might check on my phone when I can, but it's Day 1 and I'm gonna keep up the trend of I vote abstain unless we get some more information. I'm looking forward to Cole's post in particular.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Any reason? The chances of me being the fool again are so low. Well, I guess they're 1:16 but still lol, the heck?

I'm just fuckin round.

 

[Tubby23]

I'm just fuckin round.

Sounds like a classic case of fuck around and find out.

It's nearly 2am here, I was waiting for Cole but I'll have to read in the morning.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

oh shiiiiiiii

 

[shortkut]

I claim one of the roles that zell has on the list.

 

[shortkut]

Can we just get all the gifs from that scene where the crimes been all cleaned up, and the only dialogue is cursing?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

shake that tush

 

[Raposuh]

Stupid, sexy Mr. Clean.

 

[Dean]

Popping in while getting ready to eat lunch. I'm hoping there are other seers in the game, and it sounds like maybe Cole is a seer?

@Cole I know it's a risk to say, but who is the wolf? Do we take the chance on lynching them? There is a Wolf Avenger, but we are already down a powerful townie role. Are there revival roles?

I'm waiting for more info. I should be able to check back in more in depth later, in about 5 hours.

 

[Dean]

Just verified there is a Medium. I hope they revive Alu.

 

[TD]

TD is also raising my suspicion a bit to be actively jumping on someone just based on my reasoning. Yeah, FR is shady af, but I can't confirm anything right now. It's a feeling I have. Why so eager to just go with it when we have so many dangers?

While this is a fair point - the village also has to act quick. With 15 players left, 40% of us are not part of the village.

I've been in my fair share of villages and if we don't go for it, it's going to get out of control quick.

Sure, we COULD lynch a villager or the fool, and mathematically the guessing game makes that more likely at this point - but if night 2 goes poorly and the random killer gets in on the action, it's out of control as early as day 2.

Losing one of our two seer roles didn't help.

I also refuse to believe fate would be so cruel that the user with fool in his name is actually the fool.

 

[Ryan!]

So here's my thought process. Cole stated after last game he's going to be going for an honest approach. Believe him or not, I can believe that. He states that he is certain he knows who a Wolf is and we can lynch them.

So this leads to one of two conclusions for me, if he isn't lying. One, he has a seer role and knows who a Wolf is. Two, he is a Wolf, knows who every single one of them are, and is feeding one of them to the town to get on our good side.

I know last game doesn't mean anything now, but after the play that happened, it's very odd it was Alu that was killed. Cole and Kut would be my prime targets if I were a Wolf. Why keep either of them alive? They basically blew through the entire Wolf team and nailed the Serial Killer. So why wasn't Cole attacked last night? Why wasn't Kut? They're two very strong players. They can weed out baddies like it's nothing. So, again, why not go for one of them?

It's all just very very strange.

 

[Ryan!]

While this is a fair point - the village also has to act quick. With 15 players left, 40% of us are not part of the village.

I've been in my fair share of villages and if we don't go for it, it's going to get out of control quick.

Sure, we COULD lynch a villager or the fool, and mathematically the guessing game makes that more likely at this point - but if night 2 goes poorly and the random killer gets in on the action, it's out of control as early as day 2.

Losing one of our two seer roles didn't help.

I also refuse to believe fate would be so cruel that the user with fool in his name is actually the fool.

I was the Doctor last game. I'm literally a psychiatrist. It appears Zell's RNG has a sense of humor.

 

[TD]

There's also the possibility that Cole is the fool, claims to know who a wolf is, when he doesn't tell us, we vote him out and voila - he wins.

A common round 1 strategy is to not go for the most popular targets as they may end up protected anyhow, wolves wasting their kill is bad so maybe they didn't want to chance protection?