Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version Day 2 + Night 3

[Zell 17]

Greetings friends,

Here is a list of players:

@Cole
@Tubby23
@Fire Queen
@shortkut
@Tommy Boy
@Ants!
@Dean
@Ryan!
@Killface!
@Jawneh
@VashTheStampede
@Holly
@Fool's Requiem
@Benzine
@A Nipple
@Kat

And here are the roles used in this game:

Role details here: https://gwforums.com/threads/role-dictionary.427/

Village team:
Gunner
Medium
Witch
Aura Seer
Detective
Doctor
Priest

Three villagers will get random roles from the following list. This is a true random selection with replacement, the game could have four aura seers or four doctors or whatever:
Aura Seer
Spirit Seer
Flower Child
Tough Guy
Bodyguard
Beast Hunter
Witch
Marksman
Avenger
Loudmouth
Red Lady
Priest
Sheriff
Doctor

Wolf team:
Wolf Avenger
Berserk Werewolf
Wolf Seer
Shaman Wolf

Solo team (Voting):
Fool

Solo team:
Serial Killer


Rules:
Nights will be 12 hours and days will be 36 hours. The end of the next period will be clearly posted. Nights will run from 9 am ET to 9 pm ET, with the exception of the night starting right now that will last from now until 9 pm ET on Saturday.

Do not edit your posts. I'll deal with edited posts as they come but will probably end in a suicide.

You have unlimited vote changes. This includes voting nobody. The day expiration time of 9 am will be strictly enforced. If your post / vote is at 9 am or later, it will be discarded. People can have a flurry of late vote changes to lynch someone, but of course the consequences of doing that will be noticed by the village. Only your last vote will be counted. Votes must be in Bold to be counted.

There will be a minimum number of votes required to lynch. Usually this number will be around the number of villagers / 2 - 1. In the event of a tie, nobody is lynched. In the event that the minimum number of votes is not reached, nobody is lynched.

Timing may impact some events. For example, let's say the witch PMs me to kill the medium at night ten minutes before the medium PMs me who they want to revive. Too bad medium, you are dead, and your powers along with it. Similar for protection. If the doctor is protecting the Aura seer, the wolves could kill the doctor followed by the serial killer killing the Aura all in one night.

Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads. This is honor system. When you die, you will gain access to a special forum that is already set up. The medium has access to this forum already. If you are revived by the medium, you will lose access. Please use this forum for all discussion by dead players about the game. Alive players can talk during the main thread during the day.

It is possible, if very unlikely, for the game to end in a tie if every single player is killed. The game also ends in a tie if there are no deaths for three straight days and nights.

Winning Conditions:

Village: Kill all wolves and the serial killer

Wolves: Kill the serial killer. Once the village has twice as many total people as there are wolves, the wolves win, regardless of the roles remaining.

Fool: Get lynched

Serial killer: Be the last player remaining with all other players dead.

 

[Zell 17]

After a very eventful night in this MAGICAL village, dawn breaks. The evils have finally scored a kill.

Benzine has been killed by the werewolves. They were the Medium.

Get to killin'! 5 votes are required to lynch

Note: I'm adding a feature to potentially truncate the long days and nights. If you would like, you can cast a separate vote to Skip and the next phase will begin. To skip the day all of the villagers - 1 must vote to skip. To skip the night it needs to be unanimous.

 

[Cole]

I wonder if Ants had seen Benzine the night prior. or maybe he used his seer role before he died?

 

[shortkut]

I wonder if Ants had seen Benzine the night prior. or maybe he used his seer role before he died?

I’m thinking he either used it last night or they got lucky. He was adamant about Fool not being the Fool so he must have used his ability on fool

 

[VashTheStampede]

I guess one of the negatives to villagers waving their diplomas in everyone's face is that it gave the wolves a higher probability of hitting a major role like Benzine's. Maybe it's not as foolproof a techni que as I previously thought.

 

[Cole]

I guess one of the negatives to villagers waving their diplomas in everyone's face is that it gave the wolves a higher probability of hitting a major role like Benzine's. Maybe it's not as foolproof a techni que as I previously thought.

I suppose that's fair. it did give them a smaller pool to try for.

 

[shortkut]

After a very eventful night in this MAGICAL village, dawn breaks. The evils have finally scored a kill.

Benzine has been killed by the werewolves. They were the Medium.

Get to killin'! 5 votes are required to lynch

Note: I'm adding a feature to potentially truncate the long days and nights. If you would like, you can cast a separate vote to Skip and the next phase will begin. To skip the day all of the villagers - 1 must vote to skip. To skip the night it needs to be unanimous.

can you strike through benzine and his role in the first post? It’s bothering me

 

[shortkut]

I guess one of the negatives to villagers waving their diplomas in everyone's face is that it gave the wolves a higher probability of hitting a major role like Benzine's. Maybe it's not as foolproof a techni que as I previously thought.

Good point.

I don’t have any strong suspects at the moment. After this past night phase and my investigations, I now now for a fact Cole is not a wolf. I’m glad Zell reposted the list of players because earlier I tried to investigate @canadaguy . If no one comes across as overly suspicious today, I’m going to reread the pineapple on pizza thread and investigate any heathens who like that tonight

 

[Zell 17]

can you strike through benzine and his role in the first post? It’s bothering me

I wanted it to be a surprise!

 

[shortkut]

If no one comes across as overly suspicious today, I’m going to reread the pineapple on pizza thread and investigate any heathens who like that tonight

You guys need to post in that thread. Rereading it has only made me glad @Tubby23 died

 

[Dean]

So assuming shortkut is detective, Cole is a witch, Holly is a witch, and Ryan is a bodyguard...

Let's see where that leaves us:

3 wolves remaining
1 fool remaining
7 suspects (obviously not counting myself)

Vash
Jawneh
Fire Queen
Tommy
Killface
Alu
Kat

I didn't see a lot from FQ, but I could've missed some of her posts. Makes me suspicious just because you're usually more active.

I feel like at least one wolf is bound to lay low. I think Fire Queen is a good choice. Probably her strategy. Someone point out if I'm dumb and missed something.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I only recall FQ talking during the odds discussion.

 

[Fire Queen]

i was just having a really good time watching everyone argue

 

[Cole]

Good point.

I don’t have any strong suspects at the moment. After this past night phase and my investigations, I now now for a fact Cole is not a wolf. I’m glad Zell reposted the list of players because earlier I tried to investigate @canadaguy . If no one comes across as overly suspicious today, I’m going to reread the pineapple on pizza thread and investigate any heathens who like that tonight

my leading people that have seemed at least MARGINALLY suspicious to me (fool or wolf, no idea on either), Tommy (for his complete faith in me and then drastically changing vote strategy), Vash (the devils advocate thing could mean a lot of different things, but it does seem fishy), Kat... it's not much that shes suspicious, just that she seems like a smart player, and I'm always suspicious of skill.

safe list: shortkut - he clearly provided correct information as a detective. it is *possible* that I got really lucky with my kill, but that seems unlikely.

Holly - same thing, its possible Holly was faking everything and just guessed that I quoted Zell verbatim, and then maybe a DIFFERENT night killer (or different witch) put down Fools as part of the plan.

Ryan - this one is less certain, its possible he didn't protect me, but that I wasn't targetted at all. but I feel like hes safe as part of the plan.

Loose beginnigns, will update through the day.

 

[VashTheStampede]

i was just having a really good time watching everyone argue

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense actually

 

[Cole]

So assuming shortkut is detective, Cole is a witch, Holly is a witch, and Ryan is a bodyguard...

Let's see where that leaves us:

3 wolves remaining
1 fool remaining
7 suspects (obviously not counting myself)

Vash
Jawneh
Fire Queen
Tommy
Killface
Alu
Kat

I didn't see a lot from FQ, but I could've missed some of her posts. Makes me suspicious just because you're usually more active.

I feel like at least one wolf is bound to lay low. I think Fire Queen is a good choice. Probably her strategy. Someone point out if I'm dumb and missed something.

wait why not counting yourself. are you not a suspect?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Yeah Dean, tell us why you're guilty.

 

[Dean]

my leading people that have seemed at least MARGINALLY suspicious to me (fool or wolf, no idea on either), Tommy (for his complete faith in me and then drastically changing vote strategy), Vash (the devils advocate thing could mean a lot of different things, but it does seem fishy), Kat... it's not much that shes suspicious, just that she seems like a smart player, and I'm always suspicious of skill.

safe list: shortkut - he clearly provided correct information as a detective. it is *possible* that I got really lucky with my kill, but that seems unlikely.

Holly - same thing, its possible Holly was faking everything and just guessed that I quoted Zell verbatim, and then maybe a DIFFERENT night killer (or different witch) put down Fools as part of the plan.

Ryan - this one is less certain, its possible he didn't protect me, but that I wasn't targetted at all. but I feel like hes safe as part of the plan.

Loose beginnigns, will update through the day.

Until something comes up to contradict it, I'm inclined to believe everyone who was involved in the big plan: shortkut, Cole, Holly, and Ryan.

That leaves 8 others (including myself). I'm not a wolf or the fool, but I know you guys don't know that. But of the other 7 players, 3 are wolves, and 1 is the fool. The Fool still being around makes me hesitant to start trying to lynch.

 

[shortkut]

Vash (the devils advocate thing could mean a lot of different things, but it does seem fishy)

That’s how he played last round as a civilian

Kat... it's not much that shes suspicious, just that she seems like a smart player, and I'm always suspicious of skill

The way she was asking questions initially made me think she had a night role but then zell confirmed everyone does so…

Holly - same thing, its possible Holly was faking everything and just guessed that I quoted Zell verbatim, and then maybe a DIFFERENT night killer (or different witch) put down Fools as part of the plan

I’m not suspicious of her after last night

 

[Dean]

Yeah Dean, tell us why you're guilty.

I don't mind pineapple on pizza in certain cases. Fiery Hawaiian pizza (hot peppers, pineapple, and ham) is pretty good.

 

[Cole]

we'd need some level of proof, yeah.

how about we start here.

for everyone: I am not asking you to reveal your role, but let a have some fun. tell us what you got up to last night? did you catch up on your favorite Netflix show? did you sit telling stories by the fire? did you eat benzine?

im dead serious, tell us about your night. lie, be honest, mix, just let us know what you did.

 

[Zell 17]

I don't mind pineapple on pizza in certain cases. Fiery Hawaiian pizza (hot peppers, pineapple, and ham) is pretty good.

You are asking to die via act of god. A mercy killing, really.

 

[Cole]

You are asking to die via act of god. A mercy killing, really.

can I get a second potion?

 

[Dean]

I'm going to reveal one thing. I actually missed the entire night phase. I just got back from vacation today, was swamped at work because we have our monthly board meeting tomorrow and I had other meetings today plus some other people on vacation. Then I had a Kiwanis meeting right after, and had dinner with several of them. Got home around 9:15 to PM Zell, only to see I was about 20 minutes late.

 

[shortkut]

You are asking to die via act of god. A mercy killing, really.

I’m definitely investigating Dean tonight if I’m not lynched

 

[Jawneh]

I did nothing since I had nothing to do.

Beyond that, I bought a game called Goobies which has been entertaining. A
It's a good filled Vampire Survivors clone that's kind of fun. Already spent hours on it so I call that a good way to spend $5.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I stayed up pretty late writing in my diary, hoping that that evil ball of fire would not return once more to her throne in the sky and cause the solar madness to take hold once more.

 

[Dean]

I’m definitely investigating Dean tonight if I’m not lynched

Hey, man. Tubby was a villager too, and he agrees apparently.

 

[shortkut]

Hey, man. Tubby was a villager too, and he agrees apparently.

Sometimes you have to kill a few villagers to have a utopia. For all I know, pineapple on pizza is the cause of the werewolf curse or the wolves are trying to cleanse this town

 

[Fire Queen]

my friends came over and we had a wonderful meal. spaghetti with sausage. it was delicious!

for the record if anyone gets too suspicious it was veggie sausage

 

[Dean]

I think it started with a bad batch of lab-made meat. They scraped some cells of a cow that was bitten by a werewolf.

 

[shortkut]

@Zell 17 if it isn’t too much trouble, can you add the definitions of the roles to the first post so I can easily see the roles in this game and what they can do?

 

[Killface!]

To all the players, I am so sorry that I missed out on Day 1 of this. Obviously nobody likes someone who signs up for something and then just doesn't participate in anything. Having a baby and also trying to take care of family at the same time is not very fun. Regardless, I am here now and plan on being active!

for everyone: I am not asking you to reveal your role, but let a have some fun. tell us what you got up to last night? did you catch up on your favorite Netflix show? did you sit telling stories by the fire? did you eat benzine?

I spent a lot of this night phase reading up (and re-reading parts) of the Day 1 thread in between answering emails for work. I think I am all caught up with everything, though no guarantees.

Definitely too hot outside to sit by the fire. Also there's too much smoke from the Canadian wildfires. I did catch up on some Miss Rachel for Toddlers, though. Let me tell you about my favorite show.

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17 if it isn’t too much trouble, can you add the definitions of the roles to the first post so I can easily see the roles in this game and what they can do?

I put them here. https://gwforums.com/threads/role-dictionary.427/ Just open a separate tab. I wanted to de-clutter the opening post a bit, and that has more detail on the roles.

Also I eliminated Benzine. RIP. We hardly knew you.

 

[Holly]

I'm glad that shortkut's plan went off without a hitch. Both kills happened as expected, and since Benzine was targeted that means I still have a protection potion, Cole should also.

We should just protect each other.

 

[shortkut]

I'm glad that shortkut's plan went off without a hitch. Both kills happened as expected, and since Benzine was targeted that means I still have a protection potion, Cole should also.

We should just protect each other.

The only flaw with that is the wolves will just target everyone who is not us. Since I used last night to confirm things, I do not have anyone else to add to the safe list or guilty list. The doctor can protect other people outside our circle, but unless we find a wolf today we’re running out of chances to win.

We can’t kill kill face because then his wife would be a single mother

 

[Killface!]

Honestly, I think there are some days where she wants to kill me herself. I don’t think she would like the single mother part though. Babies are tough, man.

 

[Jawneh]

Should we try to make plans for the sheriff and red lady for the next night? Or just have the pick a random person in hopes of catching something?

 

[shortkut]

I put them here. https://gwforums.com/threads/role-dictionary.427/ Just open a separate tab. I wanted to de-clutter the opening post a bit, and that has more detail on the roles.

Also I eliminated Benzine. RIP. We hardly knew you.

I’m doing it on my phone, so extra tabs is harder than scrolling up.

Does anyone know how many killing roles/kills are left? Probably not a good idea to abstain to avoid lynching until the fool is dead.

 

[Holly]

Babies are tough, man.

That's an understatement. Those first few weeks when we brought my daughter home were a surreal mix of sleep depravity, Good Mythical Morning, and worrying every second "omg is she still breathing?"

Don't try pumping when you don't have a dishwasher. So many fiddly parts to wash and sanitize and by the time you finish it's time to pump again.

 

[shortkut]

Should we try to make plans for the sheriff and red lady for the next night? Or just have the pick a random person in hopes of catching something?

I would honestly like to have the gunner kill someone during the day, because once we get the fool out of the way, we can more safely lynch people.

I have a target in mind for who the fool might be

 

[shortkut]

That's an understatement. Those first few weeks when we brought my daughter home were a surreal mix of sleep depravity, Good Mythical Morning, and worrying every second "omg is she still breathing?"

Don't try pumping when you don't have a dishwasher. So many fiddly parts to wash and sanitize and by the time you finish it's time to pump again.

I know it’s off topic but we had the medela microwave sanitizing bags. Just wash with soap then put the pieces in the bag with 2oz water and sanitize. Easier and faster than the dishwasher

 

[VashTheStampede]

I like this way more than the statistics and probability class from Day 1

 

[Jawneh]

Does anyone know how many killing roles/kills are left? Probably not a good idea to abstain to avoid lynching until the fool is dead.

Two gunner shots and two marksman shots. Then there's beastmaster and avenger, but they're less direct than those two. And Red Lady. Wolves have their zerker and avenger left.

 

[shortkut]

Two gunner shots and two marksman shots. Then there's beastmaster and avenger, but they're less direct than those two. And Red Lady. Wolves have their zerker and avenger left.

Gunner is during the day, marksman at night?

 

[Holly]

Are we confirmed to have a marksman though? Only three townies got a random role from the longer list, and two of us got Witch so that leaves one Unknown (unless Tubby was an extra Priest)

 

[Jawneh]

Gunner is during the day, marksman at night?

Yes. They need to aim the first night and then shoot the next.

 

[Zell 17]

Just a reminder that not all of the roles in the OP are in the game. These roles are guaranteed:

Gunner
Medium
Witch
Aura Seer
Detective
Doctor
Priest

Then there are three random choices from the larger list.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Of the three random roles it looks like 2nd Witch and (maybe?) Bodyguard are confirmed.

 

[Killface!]

That's an understatement. Those first few weeks when we brought my daughter home were a surreal mix of sleep depravity, Good Mythical Morning, and worrying every second "omg is she still breathing?"

Don't try pumping when you don't have a dishwasher. So many fiddly parts to wash and sanitize and by the time you finish it's time to pump again.

We are very lucky that we are past the newborn stage. I remember those early months very well. We both would always tap her to see if she would move in her sleep. Just to make sure.

We have now entered the “I ONLY WANT MOMMY OR DADDY”. Usually it’s my wife, but I think she’s starting to warm up to me.