Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell’s Game 5 Night 2 / Day 2

[Zell 17]

Greetings friends,

The roles will come out soon. The role dictionary can be found here:

Zell Wolf - Zell Wolf Role Dictionary and Hall of Fame

In an effort to consolidate, I'm going to list all the roles / potential roles along with DETAILED role information. In future games you would just get a PM from me that says "Your role is XXXX". Strong Villagers: Bully Aura: Unknown During the day, can hit a player with a rock and give them a...

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Rule Change: I will break up days and nights in my PMs to you. Also, you can request that I send you PMs for any other role besides your own. For example, if you want to fake witch, you can have me send you the prompts for the witch. You obviously cannot use any abilities that are not your own. This should hopefully cut down on the usefulness of "Zell said XXXX in PM".

First, here is a list of players:

@Analutics
@Ants!
@Ben
@Benzine
@Christina
@Cole
@Fool's Requiem
@Holly
@Jawneh
@Local Hero
@shortkut
@Smacktard
@TD
@Tommy Boy
@Tubby23
@VashTheStampede

And here are the roles:

Village team:
Aura Seer
Spirit Seer
Jailer
Medium
Witch
Doctor
Flower Child

Three villagers will get random roles from the following list:

Villager
Witch
Aura Seer
Doctor
Priest
Spirit Seer
Flower Child
Tough Guy
Bodyguard
Beast Hunter
Marksman
Avenger
Loudmouth
Red Lady
Sheriff
Bell Ringer
Preacher
Flagger
Judge
Violinist

Wolf team:
Wolf Seer
Nightmare Wolf
Shadow Wolf
Random Werewolf

The random werewolf can be any of the numbered wolves listed in the dictionary EXCEPT normal werewolf.

Cupid

Solo team:
Random Killer

The random killer can be any of the 6 killers listed in the dictionary, with the exception of Instigator, as Instigator and Cupid cannot be in the same game)

Rules:
Nights will be 12 hours and days will be 24 hours. The end of the next period will be clearly posted. Nights will run from 9 pm ET to 9 am ET.

You may edit your posts for clarity. If you edit out an action (like shooting someone) and you get caught I'm killing you.

You have unlimited vote changes. This includes voting nobody. The day expiration time of 9 pm will be strictly enforced. If your post / vote is at 9 pm or later, it will be discarded. People can have a flurry of late vote changes to lynch someone, but of course the consequences of doing that will be noticed by the village. Only your last vote will be counted. Votes must be in Bold to be counted. Please vote in the format I vote XXXX to make it easy for me.

There will be a minimum number of votes required to lynch. Usually this number will be around the number of villagers / 2. In the event of a tie, nobody is lynched. In the event that the minimum number of votes is not reached, nobody is lynched.

Night events will go in the following priority order regardless of when the PMs are sent to me:

Wolf Nightmare activates
Wolf Shaman/Confusion activates
Illusionist disguise
Medium revive
Wolves break out of warden prison
Wolf seer check
Blind Wolf check
Beast Trap ensnares an evil
Flagger redirect
Doctor protect
Bodyguard protect
Witch protect
Tough Guy protect
Violinist check
Detective check
Aura Seer check
Marksman shot
Witch kill (if not killed by marksman, otherwise potion unused)
Jailer/Warden kill (if not killed by marksman/witch)
Red Lady visit
Solo killer kill
Wolf berserk mode activates
Wolves kill
Spirit Seer check
Cupid selection

In the event that two of the same role perform the exact same action, they will both be credited.

Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads. This is honor system. When you die, you will gain access to a special forum that is already set up. The ritualist will have access to this forum at night. If you are revived by the ritualist, you will lose access. Please use this forum for all discussion by dead players about the game. Alive players can talk during the main thread during the day.

It is possible, if very unlikely, for the game to end in a tie if every single player is killed. The game also ends in a tie if there are no deaths for three straight days and nights.

Winning Conditions:

Village: Kill all wolves and the solo killer

Wolves: Kill the solo killer. Once the wolves make up half the total players and the solo killer is dead, the wolves win, regardless of the roles remaining. The werewolf fan and sorcerer DO NOT count toward the wolf win condition unless they become werewolves.

Cupid: You can win with the village. You can also solo win if your couple (or you + your couple) are the only players alive. This win condition trumps any other that may occur at the same time.

Solo killer: Be the last player remaining with all other players dead.

The day starts starts at 9 PM ET.

 

[Zell 17]

Despite the failures of the previous day, the village was in high hopes. There were a large number of mystical villagers still alive, and how many killers could there be? One villager in particular wasn't bothered at all by the idea that there could be monsters afoot. She didn't believe in monsters. She barely wanted to go to the town hall. She slowly meandered home in a dreamlike state. Maybe she would walk through the meadow on her way home. The meadow was her favorite place. She loved the wildflowers. Maybe the rest of the villagers should take a stroll through the meadow and relax a bit. Fool's was so erratic, he probably brought his demise upon himself.

She sat amongst the trees near the edge of the meadow. She noticed a chill wind in the air as the sun set. She did not notice that she had been followed. Before she even sensed the presence of a stranger she had been murdered and the trees were stained with blood. Holly trees.

On the other side of town, another villager was of an opposite temperament. She needed to get the hell out of here. She knew all too well what the dirty underbelly of this town looked like. As always, she didn't have any money or any way to get out of town. But she knew how to make a quick buck. Men had always been interested in her. She liked too the freedom of her new profession, the oldest profession. She didn't have to answer to anybody anymore. She was her own boss. One last job, and she could get out of this monster-infested town.

A stranger aprroached as she stood on the sidewalk. They were relaxed and professional looking. It was easy to accept their proposition. Easy because of how clean cut the stranger was. Easier still because of the amount of money she was going to make tonight. She walked willingly into the house. Immediately she knew something was wrong. The house stank of decay. There were cobwebs on the ceiling. There were ants on the bedding! Ants! Clearly nobody lived her. People killed here. She turned to run, but the door was shut, and the stranger was nowhere to be found...

Holly has been killed by werewolves. She was the Flower Child.
Ants! visited a killer last! Ants! was the Red Lady

 

[TD]

Ah, these stories definitely make this even better.

So much for Ants trying to stay alive by targeting non-sus players. At least we know for sure Jawneh can be trusted.

We need to make sure our medium stays safe tonight, doctor (don't reveal yourself) should probably protect them.

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Benzine]

The wolves are on notice. Good luck to our super handsome medium who will survive until tomorrow at least.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Ants fucked around and found out

 

[Benzine]

Did we get any indication from Ants who they were going to visit last night?

 

[Local Hero]

Did we get any indication from Ants who they were going to visit last night?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Did we get any indication from Ants who they were going to visit last night?

He was planning on visiting people he thought were good so he was avoiding saying who, IIRC

 

[TD]

Did we get any indication from Ants who they were going to visit last night?

He was saying he didn't want to announce it because it could get that person and him killed.

We may have to wait until tomorrow but as long as we can keep the medium safe.

 

[Cole]

after last night and everyone talking about me wanting out of the game, I was jailed last evening, and clearly not killed. there are only a couple of people I think who would be malicious enough to keep me in the game against my will, but also wantging me to stay in the game longer. that list is pretty short, so I think I have a solid idea of who would fulfill both of those criteria.

Ants specifically visited a killer last night, it would seem. NOT Holly, who he would have died along side.

the way I can see it, there's really only two people Ants would check night 1. shortkut, his arch nemesis, maybe he could find out if he was in danger. or TD, his only posted suspicion. he said it was a "stretch accusation", but on the first night you actually get to choose who to target as a seer type role, wouldn't you pick the only person you had any read on? I know I would.

as for TD, tbh I can't be fucked to go back and read all of his shit. especially when it means filtering through 50% shitposts, and 50% reads that are 50% accurate.

he WOULD have been on the shortlist for someone that would keep me in the game against my will, and also not view me as a threat, but I think it's more likely that Ants investigated TD. I would have, with nothing else to go on, I would have investigated the person I had ANY suspicion of what so ever, what's the worst that happens? You clear them? It's night 1.

shortkut is probably a wolf too, call it a gut feeling. especially because he DIDN'T specifically point out what my role was after I posted that gif. after the previous game where I got on him about calling out my roleclaim, he would probably do the exact opposite this time. additionally, despite his protestations, he 100% would have jumped at the chance to vote me off because I wanted to be voted off, not because he was "being respectful of my wishes". he immediately posted "vote Cole and skip". hard pass on that one.

aaaaaannnnywaaaaaay

I vote Cole.

 

[TD]

Are you bold enough to do this as a claim and then state it wasn't because obviously that would be dumb?

 

[Local Hero]

He was planning on visiting people he thought were good so he was avoiding saying who, IIRC

Interesting. Who are the most innocent appearing of us?

 

[VashTheStampede]

after last night and everyone talking about me wanting out of the game, I was jailed last evening, and clearly not killed. there are only a couple of people I think who would be malicious enough to keep me in the game against my will, but also wantging me to stay in the game longer. that list is pretty short, so I think I have a solid idea of who would fulfill both of those criteria.

Ants specifically visited a killer last night, it would seem. NOT Holly, who he would have died along side.

the way I can see it, there's really only two people Ants would check night 1. shortkut, his arch nemesis, maybe he could find out if he was in danger. or TD, his only posted suspicion. he said it was a "stretch accusation", but on the first night you actually get to choose who to target as a seer type role, wouldn't you pick the only person you had any read on? I know I would.

as for TD, tbh I can't be fucked to go back and read all of his shit. especially when it means filtering through 50% shitposts, and 50% reads that are 50% accurate.

he WOULD have been on the shortlist for someone that would keep me in the game against my will, and also not view me as a threat, but I think it's more likely that Ants investigated TD. I would have, with nothing else to go on, I would have investigated the person I had ANY suspicion of what so ever, what's the worst that happens? You clear them? It's night 1.

shortkut is probably a wolf too, call it a gut feeling. especially because he DIDN'T specifically point out what my role was after I posted that gif. after the previous game where I got on him about calling out my roleclaim, he would probably do the exact opposite this time. additionally, despite his protestations, he 100% would have jumped at the chance to vote me off because I wanted to be voted off, not because he was "being respectful of my wishes". he immediately posted "vote Cole and skip". hard pass on that one.

aaaaaannnnywaaaaaay

I vote Cole.

So you're saying he was lying about his strategy and didn't just get fooled by someone he thought was safe.

Interesting, but I don't subscribe to the same theory.

 

[shortkut]

He was planning on visiting people he thought were good so he was avoiding saying who, IIRC

He should have trusted his gut and his crotch and visited me instead. He’d still be here otherwise

 

[A Punched Face]

Interesting. Who are the most innocent appearing of us?

I would have said Holly but clearly he didn't go there.

 

[Local Hero]

Are you bold enough to do this as a claim and then state it wasn't because obviously that would be dumb?

I'm clearly just saying he visited a wolf

 

[VashTheStampede]

Interesting. Who are the most innocent appearing of us?

Well who he thought seemed innocent and who other people thought innocent could be completely different. For example, I felt Benzine was totally innocent but I think it was Tubby who called him especially suspicious.

 

[TD]

Oh yay Cole is back to playing for real.

 

[Benzine]

Wake up @Tubby23 it's almost midday

Was @Tubby23 saying he was role claiming seer to me? I didn't understand at all. Cause if that was true, why isn't Tubby dead now?

 

[Benzine]

Well who he thought seemed innocent and who other people thought innocent could be completely different. For example, I felt Benzine was totally innocent but I think it was Tubby who called him especially suspicious.

We can come back to me later on, I don't mind.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh yay Cole is back to playing for real.

Give it a few before rejoicing lol

 

[A Punched Face]

I'm clearly just saying he visited a wolf

I think with the clarification he got yesterday he either visited a wolf or the RK. Either are useful to know for sure. First priority would be the wolves though since our history shows that RKs tend to kill wolves and not townies somehow.

 

[Local Hero]

I think with the clarification he got yesterday he either visited a wolf or the RK. Either are useful to know for sure. First priority would be the wolves though since our history shows that RKs tend to kill wolves and not townies somehow.

What clarification?

I don't recall, but guessing that it's visiting the RK will also result in death

 

[TD]

Cause if that was true, why isn't Tubby dead now?

This is a good point. Leaving seers around is a mistake.

 

[A Punched Face]

What clarification?

I don't recall, but guessing that it's visiting the RK will also result in death

Yeah the description read "evil" but Zell clarified that it wasn't about auras but about wolves and RKs.

 

[Benzine]

I would also like to talk about what we think is going on with our solo killer. I can add on this later, there's not much to be done otherwise.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh and to begin my shitposting I will pay tribute to another wrestler who has sadly died

 

[Cole]

So you're saying he was lying about his strategy and didn't just get fooled by someone he thought was safe.

Interesting, but I don't subscribe to the same theory.

ngl I didn't know about his claim he'd view people he thought were safe.

maybe he checked shortkut anyway.

I vote Cole.

 

[Local Hero]

Wake up @Tubby23 it's almost midday

Was @Tubby23 saying he was role claiming seer to me? I didn't understand at all. Cause if that was true, why isn't Tubby dead now?

I'll be honest, I didn't see the hint (or maybe it was more than a hint...) if tubby claiming seer.

If it was understood that he was, I wonder why he wasn't a target?

Maybe the wolves thought he would be protected

 

[A Punched Face]

ngl I didn't know about his claim he'd view people he thought were safe.

maybe he checked shortkut anyway.

I vote Cole.

Yeah after I jokingly said he should go die for the good of the town he said his strategy was going to be finding good people that he could confirm himself rather than needing to rely on the medium to do it.

 

[Local Hero]

For now, I vote @TD because he's putting sus reactions on my posts

 

[VashTheStampede]

For now, I vote @TD because he's putting sus reactions on my posts

A-FUCKING-MEN

 

[VashTheStampede]

A-FUCKING-MEN

(that's short for "Ants fucking men"

RIP in peace you fuckin slut )

 

[Benzine]

I'll be honest, I didn't see the hint (or maybe it was more than a hint...) if tubby claiming seer.

If it was understood that he was, I wonder why he wasn't a target?

Maybe the wolves thought he would be protected

The wolves went for Holly, who had strongly hinted that she was the flower girl. I wonder if the wolves went for a kill on someone they knew just wouldn't be protected? That seems really really safe to me. Why wouldn't the wolves go for one of the other really strong roles claimed? This is an early fear I have, that the solo killer and a wolf are lovers...

Do the wolves have the capacity for two night kills? I tried reading, but I'm super dumb, and can't see that they can. I am just wondering on this one. Alurulereader, I'd love to know if you already know. It's for a side project I'm working on.

 

[TD]

For now, I vote @TD because he's putting sus reactions on my posts

You know what's sus?

Claiming you didn't see his claim. He was pretty subtle at the beginning of the day phase, so I can see that missed. Near the end of the phase he literally quoted all of those hints and explicitly laid it out.

But yeah - maybe you're right. Maybe you the wolves thought he was protected.

 

[VashTheStampede]

The wolves went for Holly, who had strongly hinted that she was the flower girl. I wonder if the wolves went for a kill on someone they knew just wouldn't be protected? That seems really really safe to me. Why wouldn't the wolves go for one of the other really strong roles claimed? This is an early fear I have, that the solo killer and a wolf are lovers...

Do the wolves have the capacity for two night kills? I tried reading, but I'm super dumb, and can't see that they can. I am just wondering on this one. Alurulereader, I'd love to know if you already know. It's for a side project I'm working on.

Wolves took out the Flower Girl because they have a Shadow Wolf. She was our best defense against THAT bullshit.

 

[shortkut]

shortkut is probably a wolf too, call it a gut feeling. especially because he DIDN'T specifically point out what my role was after I posted that gif.

You called yourself the bell ringer before you posted the gif of Quasimodo. Was I supposed to repeat what you said?

 

[A Punched Face]

The wolves went for Holly, who had strongly hinted that she was the flower girl. I wonder if the wolves went for a kill on someone they knew just wouldn't be protected? That seems really really safe to me. Why wouldn't the wolves go for one of the other really strong roles claimed? This is an early fear I have, that the solo killer and a wolf are lovers...

Do the wolves have the capacity for two night kills? I tried reading, but I'm super dumb, and can't see that they can. I am just wondering on this one. Alurulereader, I'd love to know if you already know. It's for a side project I'm working on.

From the listed roles no. Through the random wolf roles there could be a berserker that could take out two if aimed right.

 

[Benzine]

Wolves took out the Flower Girl because they have a Shadow Wolf. She was our best defense against THAT bullshit.

Is it though? Flower power comes by picking someone, not just saying save whoever is lynched, right? Not good enough, suspicion points to Mr. TheStampede.

But thanks for reminding me about the shadow wolf. We have no wolf kills yet, they have 8 voting power. I say now, in case the power is activated today, anyone with proper info should just come forward and do it, so we know who to vote for to hopefully outnumber the wolves? If not, I say we kill @Tubby23 while blind voting (I don't have a read)

I think we are already running dangerous and need to convert some sort of kill. Voting kill could happen today, another wolf kill at night, and there's the solo killer out there too who is trying to make kills. Might have to role claim myself soon.

 

[Benzine]

Anyone else got any ideas who we should all vote for if the shadow power starts soon?

 

[Benzine]

My guts says shortkut too. Just evil.

 

[Jawneh]

From the listed roles no. Through the random wolf roles there could be a berserker that could take out two if aimed right.

There's avenger too, but that's less directly usable.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Is it though? Flower power comes by picking someone, not just saying save whoever is lynched, right? Not good enough, suspicion points to Mr. TheStampede.

As a former Flower Child I can confirm that you're exactly right, you have to name your protection target.

I figure the wolves use the shadow power to lynch someone they typically couldn't. The Flower Child should also easily be able to surmise who they can't night kill and protect them when the shadows fall.

 

[A Punched Face]

Anyone else got any ideas who we should all vote for if the shadow power starts soon?

Thinking on it. Tubby would hopefully be able to provide a read too.

Also yeah, we're 2 nights in with no RK kills. If we're dealing with an arsonist, that's up to 4 additional kills that could happen tonight. Serial killer up to 3. Illusionist would only be at 2, but could have 3 during the day tomorrow if they choose.

 

[Benzine]

I figure the wolves use the shadow power to lynch someone they typically couldn't. The Flower Child should also easily be able to surmise who they can't night kill and protect them when the shadows fall.

I don't figure how the mind of the FC and the wolves could be in sync to pick the same person? No reason for it really. They've been planning a left field lynch... We have absolutely no idea who that would be.

 

[TD]

I figure the wolves use the shadow power to lynch someone they typically couldn't.

Which would be who?

 

[Tommy Boy]

Holly's gif post makes sense now, it said "new post" in a flower. I honestly didn't even pick that one up.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I don't figure how the mind of the FC and the wolves could be in sync to pick the same person? No reason for it really. They've been planning a left field lynch... We have absolutely no idea who that would be.

Wolves couldn't night kill Ants.

If Shadow Wolf does a thing, Ants is an obvious target for a shadow lynch.

Obviously that doesn't matter NOW, but neither does this whole discussion because Holly's dead too.

Currently.

 

[shortkut]

Wake up @Tubby23 it's almost midday

Was @Tubby23 saying he was role claiming seer to me? I didn't understand at all. Cause if that was true, why isn't Tubby dead now?

He could be wolf seer… then he wouldn’t be lying but also wouldn’t be dead