Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell’s Game 4 Night 4/Day 4

[Raposuh]

They're more like Beast Ambushers anyway.

 

[A Punched Face]

They're more like Beast Ambushers anyway.

What do you mean they

 

[canadaguy]

They're more like Beast Ambushers anyway.

Don't you mean "we're"?

 

[A Punched Face]

Hey guys I found a poster for today in the game.

 

[Benzine]

I am spending a small amount of time with my daughter while my wife is doing something that I need to keep her away from (her birthday is soon).

Then I need to make a full breakfast to help with my condition.

Then I’ll come to the computer and convince you to vote for Fire Queen.

I’d also really like to hear what happens tomorrow from FQ and Raposa. It’ll be us three left; if the alchemist ACTUALLY KILLS SOMEONE… which I suspect they will, as it’s going to make them win the game.

I will kill Alu tonight if things carry on like they currently are.

 

[Benzine]

Kit stop outing yourself with your word choices

 

[canadaguy]

I am spending a small amount of time with my daughter while my wife is doing something that I need to keep her away from (her birthday is soon).

Then I need to make a full breakfast to help with my condition.

Then I’ll come to the computer and convince you to vote for Fire Queen.

I’d also really like to hear what happens tomorrow from FQ and Raposa. It’ll be us three left; if the alchemist ACTUALLY KILLS SOMEONE… which I suspect they will, as it’s going to make them win the game.

I will kill Alu tonight if things carry on like they currently are.

 

[Benzine]

 

[canadaguy]

Here's my plan instead wolfboy, we lynch the alchemist, the you try to kill tonight and die in tge beast hunter trap

 

[Benzine]

I am super on board for that plan. I would rather the town wins than the alchemist. I’d still be tied first on the leaderboard.

 

[Raposuh]

What do you mean they

There was supposed to be a gif of Captain Barbossa there

I'll just leave it here instead.

turns out I remembered the quote wrong anyway, so i deserve to be lynched

 

[Raposuh]

Here's my plan instead wolfboy, we lynch the alchemist, the you try to kill tonight and die in tge beast hunter trap

I am interested in this plan because it gets me a chance at the Beast Hunter badge.

 

[Benzine]

I am interested in this plan because it gets me a chance at the Beast Hunter badge.

Then you should vote for Fire Queen.

 

[Fire Queen]

Why only probably?

in this crazy mixed up world of ours is anything for certain?

 

[canadaguy]

Yes lots of things

 

[Fire Queen]

you’re right. we know for a fact that i’m the second beast hunter, thank you

 

[Benzine]

you’re right. we know for a fact that i’m the second beast hunter, thank you

Is that as confirmed as me being the bell ringer?

 

[Fire Queen]

if the alchemist wants to confirm it they can visit me tonight!

 

[canadaguy]

Voting

Is that as confirmed as me being the bell ringer?

In a way

 

[A Punched Face]

Is that as confirmed as me being the bell ringer?

That's the highest level of confirmation one can ask for.

 

[A Punched Face]

I've got a suggestion. We vote off Benzine, the Beast Hunter and alchemist have a party together where they both get really drunk. The BH can stumble into his own trap and the alchemist will accidentally drink their own black potion thinking it's a cocktail.

 

[Raposuh]

Was Benzine bell ringer the whole time and Fire Queen is secretly the trickster wolf? And also Benzine is Alu's target? This game is chaos

 

[Benzine]

As someone keenly following the "traps" claimed this game, I have no fear of falling into a trap myself, and I bet the Alchemist doesn't. I think this is the worst possible line to go to ensure a non-alchemist win.

Lynching the solo killer is the play.

And really, I am the bell ringer. So I could be Alu's target. But I trust that he's telling the truth and that Local was the target. What else was Alu meant to do really.

 

[Benzine]

Vote @Raposa

 

[A Punched Face]

As someone keenly following the "traps" claimed this game, I have no fear of falling into a trap myself, and I bet the Alchemist doesn't. I think this is the worst possible line to go to ensure a non-alchemist win.

Lynching the solo killer is the play.

And really, I am the bell ringer. So I could be Alu's target. But I trust that he's telling the truth and that Local was the target. What else was Alu meant to do really.

He's telling the truth guys if he loses I can possibly win.

 

[Benzine]

He's telling the truth guys if he loses I can possibly win.

You are going to win, you can do it

 

[canadaguy]

Voting fire queen

 

[Benzine]

Voting fire queen

Why do you think it's FQ more than Raposa? I will vote for either of them as I don't know who the alchemist is.

 

[canadaguy]

I asked them both what they think about Kelly's potion claim.

FQ said it was "probably bogus". At this point she knows definitively if it's bogus or not. If she's beast hunter (or who knows what fucking role) she would know it's bogus since raposa was locked up. If she's alchemist, she knows for sure as well.

 

[Fire Queen]

if i was the alchemist i for sure would have talked myself into a corner and died already

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (2 required):

Benzine - 3 (Alu, canadaguy, Raposa)
Fire Queen - 1 (canadaguy)
Raposa - 1 (Benzine)

Votes to skip (5 required):

Skip - 1 (Fire Queen)

No vote - 4 (Alu, Benzine, candaguy, Raposa)

 

[Benzine]

I asked them both what they think about Kelly's potion claim.

FQ said it was "probably bogus". At this point she knows definitively if it's bogus or not. If she's beast hunter (or who knows what fucking role) she would know it's bogus since raposa was locked up. If she's alchemist, she knows for sure as well.

Kit was put into jail and no potions were given out. I can actually confirm that Kelly is lying - he told me, in the Bellringer chat. . I probably should've said that a little bit sooner today, but I'm still fucked.

So I am going to stick with Kit.

 

[A Punched Face]

Kit was put into jail and no potions were given out. I can actually confirm that Kelly is lying - he told me, in the Bellringer chat. . I probably should've said that a little bit sooner today, but I'm still fucked.

So I am going to stick with Kit.

I figured you would know for sure if Kelly was lying.

But @canadaguy do you really want to move off Benzine for the third day in a row to hope it works out this time?

 

[Raposuh]

Kit was put into jail and no potions were given out. I can actually confirm that Kelly is lying - he told me, in the Bellringer chat. . I probably should've said that a little bit sooner today, but I'm still fucked.

So I am going to stick with Kit.

I'm so dumb I went to go look at the role dictionary to see if bellringers got a chat that I missed reading about.

 

[A Punched Face]

I'm so dumb I went to go look at the role dictionary to see if bellringers got a chat that I missed reading about.

They only got one bell they gotta share it

 

[Benzine]

The bell ringers love swinging, we always share the bell end.

@canadaguy please don't let the alchemist win! That's worth 10 town victories.

 

[A Punched Face]

@canadaguy why do you want to lynch:
1) The alchemist today instead of Benzine
2) Specifically Fire Queen

Alchemist vs. Benzine: one will die no matter what, either tonight or tomorrow from a potion. Do you truly believe Benzine is an avenger? Also, why Fire Queen over Raposa?

If Benzine is another alpha, then convincing us to lynch the RK is the only way he'll win, and it'll guarantee he'll win. If he's an avenger and has the target on one of us, the RK will win. But he could be a super bro and just take out the RK for us as well.

Basically, fun times.


Also @Zell 17 is it really only 2 required to lynch today and not 3?

 

[A Punched Face]

Also as Raposa pointed out on the last page, is Benzine is guardian wolf he'll still need us to lynch the RK for him to win. But that would be another scenario where the town simply cannot win at this point (unless the RK takes out Benzine for some reason).

 

[Benzine]

@Raposa who are you going to kill tonight? I will kill Alu.

 

[Raposuh]

If you're going to kill him anyway why'd yall take out Local? Could've let the poor guy live.

 

[Benzine]

Because Local was the seer and it bought more time. We rung his bell real good.

And the "beast hunters" were bumbling their traps so much we had to sort it before they got somewhere useful.

Alu's been a townie since the moment he was outed. I don't mind him potentially winning two points.

 

[Benzine]

I just want to be clear so that we don't kill the same people.

 

[Raposuh]

Can't trust this bell ringer I think, might be as bad as the wolves.

 

[Benzine]

@Fire Queen while I have the opportunity, I would just like to say you're an outstanding person and really super great and I take back all the horrible things I said while you were killing me in cs.

 

[A Punched Face]

@canadaguy which route to a loss do you want to take?

 

[A Punched Face]

Alright Benzine I'm gonna leave my vote on you. If you're the avenger wolf and don't want the RK to win, then put your kill on them. If you're not the avenger wolf then tomorrow the RK is getting killed during the day, either with you still alive and you coming out on top, or with you dead and the town winning.

@canadaguy please make sure we can't end the day in a 2-2 tie

 

[canadaguy]

I am not sure what to do

 

[Fire Queen]

dead thread for sure going insane

 

[Benzine]

If you think you've definitely lost, you're choosing between who you want to win out of me or the solo killer, who I really do think is Kit. Kit is the better human being to choose, as they're simply amazing, but they will get 20 points compared to the wolves 8.

If you kill me today and I die, there is going to be 1.5 deaths. Then, if FQ is actually the SK, she wins.

If you kill Kit today and they're not the SK, the SK (FQ) wins?

If you kill the SK today, then there's one death tonight. It'll be FQ, cg, and me - or, maybe I get caught in the trap! Assuming I dodge the trap, if I am the alpha or the guardian wolf, I win. If I'm anything else I lose, right? So there's more than one way for you to actually win here.

If I get lynched today but am the guardian or the alpha, then 2.5 people die tonight and it's just a matter of picking who you want to have win tomorrow. The SK won't kill me because my kill won't go off and then they will be lynched. They won't win that way.

That's about it isn't it? @Aloof

 

[A Punched Face]

I am not sure what to do

Well, which of these is possible at this point:

1. Wolf Avenger: Will take another player with them to the grave when they die. The player must be selected by sending a PM prior to death. The player can be changed at any time. Aura: Evil
2. Werewolf: A normal werewolf. No unusual powers. Aura: Evil.
3. Shaman Wolf: Can select a player to enchant for the following night. That player will show as the wolf shaman to all seer roles. This ability has unlimited uses, but cannot be used if the shaman wolf is the only wolf alive. The player to shaman will be selected via PM. Must be sent during the day. Aura: Evil
4. Berserk Werewolf: Once per game, can activate berserk status. The ability must be activated during the day. The wolves' normal nightly kill will be guaranteed to die. Anyone attempting to protect that player is also guaranteed to die regardless of role or role attributes. The berserk can be activated anytime for the current or next night phase by sending a PM. The berserk ends immediately if the berserk werewolf is killed, including if killed by the solo player immediately prior to use. Aura: Evil
5. Nightmare Wolf: Can cause a player to fall asleep during the night, thus being unable to use any abilities. Up to two uses. During the day, must notify by PM the player to fall asleep for the subsequent night. If the medium is nightmared, they will lose access to the dead forum for one night/day cycle. Nightmared players can still vote to skip. Aura: Evil.
6. Guardian Wolf: Can prevent a player from being lynched during the day. One use. Nobody will know why the player could not by lynched. Analogous to the Flower child. Power used during the day. Uses their power by PMing the name of the person they wish to protect. Aura: Evil
7. Wolf Trickster: Can select a player. Can change the player selected at anytime via PM. If the selected player dies via any means other than werewolf kill, that player will appear to be the wolf trickster and the wolf trickster will take on the aura and team status of the player killed. Aura: Evil.
8. Confusion Wolf: Twice per game, can activate confusion status at night. Anybody killed that night will not have their roles revealed. The wolves will be told the roles of those killed. The wolves still cannot see the roles of those killed by the corruptor. Aura: Evil.
9. Shadow Wolf: Can cast a shadow one time over the town's votes during the day. Must be used with adequate time remaining in the day, at least 12 hours. Usable via PM. Voting for the day's lynch will become private, and wolves votes will be doubled. If the shadow wolf is on the wolf team, the wolves will not be able to communicate with each other privately during the day until AFTER the shadow wolf ability has been used. If the Alpha Wolf is in the group, the Alpha Wolf may send private, one-way messages to the team during this period by PMing me. Aura: Evil
10. Alpha Wolf: Natural leader of the wolves. Has two votes at night, and automatically wins ties. Does not possess Evil aura. Requires two attacks to be killed. These attacks could be two lynching attempts, two marksman shots, a gunshot and a witch's potion, etc. The village will be notified if the Alpha Wolf has been attacked, but not the manner in which they were attacked, who attacked them, or who was attacked. Aura: Unknown.
11. Wolf Seer: Once per night can select a player and see their exact role. Selection is made via PM at night. Cannot vote with the other wolves unless the Wolf Seer resigns their ability to See. Once the ability is resigned it can never return. Aura: Evil

Avenger: Yes - if it's on the RK we'll win, if it's on one of us we lose. If we lynch the RK successfully today we can still win tomorrow
Werewolf: no
Shaman: technically yes? We haven't seen any funny business, but we only had a single aura seer this game who only reported on two auras.
Berserk: technically yes, wouldn't know if this was used, but it seems unlikely
Nightmare: technically yes, but doesn't appear to have been used at all this game
Guardian: Yes - potentially could have used it to save Kelly's lynch earlier and given an extra day of two wolves to get closer to the win
Trickster: Technically yes, but it hasn't been used
Confusion: almost certainly no
Shadow: also certainly no
Alpha: yes, and this would lead to a townie loss unless the RK takes out Benzine after we lynch him, instead of taking out a townie
Seer: yes


Avenger: the choice is Benzine's if he wants a town win or an RK win
Shaman: lynching him is safe, get the RK tomorrow
Guardian: No way to win unless the RK takes him out instead of us
Alpha: we're doomed (unless the RK takes him out)
Seer: lynching is safe (statistically unlikely, but this game laughs at statistics)

Now those same roles we get the same outcomes if we go for the RK, outside of with the avenger we can win by holding off until tomorrow IF we successfully lynch the actual RK. Guardian or Alpha we lose no matter what we do. If it's guardian or alpha we're dealing with, I'd almost rather figure that out today.