Dragon ball wolf day 3

[Ants!]

and you shall

for now


because someone needs to die

why NOT Dimmerwit? you got proof of goodness?

we have 0 information unless someone wants to share

I can switch to him maybe, don't have anything for his defense. But it looks like the only thing against him is he's been kinda quiet?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I can switch to him maybe, don't have anything for his defense. But it looks like the only thing against him is he's been kinda quiet?

everyone is being quiet in this game

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Arsonist is gonna take care of that for us

 

[Jon]

Arsonist is gonna take care of that for us

Says the arsonist

 

[Fool's Requiem]

 

[Local Hero]

Voted

Just got back from the trip. Tomorrow I will attempt to stone a baddy. Frieza, perhaps

 

[Quagmire]

Skip

 

[Ants!]

Skip

 

[Local Hero]

Skip

 

[Ants!]

Skip

You were the bully – equivalent in my game also. And that time you were a bully and you stoned by boy Tommy to death. Starting to think you were born to be a bully or something.

 

[Local Hero]

You were the bully – equivalent in my game also. And that time you were a bully and you stoned by boy Tommy to death. Starting to think you were born to be a bully or something.

stfu

 

[Ants!]

 

[Quagmire]

 

[Ben]

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Ben]

 

[Jon]

skip?

 

[shortkut]

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Skipparoni

 

[rktaker]

the Z warriors all corner one particular member of their group

???: we trusted you all this time and you were a traitor?

???: speak for yourself I never trusted them for a second let's end them now

???: alright let's do this Kame.....Hame.......HAAAAAA

the person falls and....

Dimmerwit is dead they were Whis the Fool

Game Over: the Fool wins

 

[dimmerwit]

 

[Ben]

Guess we know why he was playing out of character now.

Gg dimmerwit.

 

[rktaker]

so I guess this was a test game for me if I ever run another game I at least learned some things now

1. I had simple relatively simple roles just being first time and even with the dictionary there were some things my dumb brain just couldn't comprehend.also a lot of the roles are similar to each other anyway so i really felt like i had to pick and choose which ones to have

2. I was originally gonna have the third party role be a survivor role which basically wins no matter the village or wolves win because I thought that made more sense for the character of Whis but I wanted to stick to Zell's roles and idk if he ever did a survivor role before and if he did how people felt about it. especially since it's not in the dictionary I would have to describe the role in the first post of the game which would mean the survivor would be in the game and I didn't want to make it that obvious that the survivor was in the game so I just stuck to the roles that Zell had in the dictionary

I will post what everyone's characters and roles were in my next post

 

[Ben]

 

[rktaker]

number and player	character	role
1 Vash	Freeza	nightmare wolf
2. Local Hero	Tien	bully
3. dead body	Master Roshi	farmer
4. shortkut	Bulma	doctor
5. Quagmire	Goku	preacher
6. Ben	Zarbon	werewolf
7. Tommy Boy	future trunks	detective
8. Jon	Vegeta	Gunner
9. Kat	Yamcha	spirit seer
10. Benzine	Chiaotzu	flower child
11. Ants	Beerus	Alpha Wolf
12. Fool's Requiem	Piccolo	Avenger
13. Alu	Krillin	Loudmouth
14. Dimmerwit	Whis	fool

 

[Fool's Requiem]

damn, never got to use my ability.

 

[rktaker]

damn, never got to use my ability.

fool would have been dead if Local got to throw the second rock at you

 

[shortkut]

Did I win?

 

[Local Hero]

fool would have been dead if Local got to throw the second rock at you

Would his power work if he got rocked? I can't remember

 

[rktaker]

Would his power work if he got rocked? I can't remember

from the dictionary
Fool-

Wins the game if they get lynched during the day. Loses in all other scenarios. If the fool is the last player alive, the Village wins.

so if you threw the second rock at you which would cause Fools as avenger to kill Dimmer it sounds like he wouldn't have won it's only from being lynched that the fool wins

 

[Kat]

Would his power work if he got rocked? I can't remember

Avenge works even if you are rocked, you just can't change your target.

 

[Jon]

I really despise the Fool mechanic.

 

[Ben]

I unlocked the dead forum for everyone.

The Dead Zone

...seriously, Yamcha?

gwforums.com

 

[Jon]

A mechanic that punished every player but one for just playing the game is not a fun way to lose. There is no easy way to identify the role and it causes more people to make stupid choices to avoid it.

It's just not fun in my opinion.

 

[Ben]

I really despise the Fool mechanic.

Yeah, it doesn't happen often but does feel pretty empty. Especially in the one game I felt I was doing okay hiding and manipulating everyone.

It should probably be changed so they 'win' in regards to hall of fame points and badges, but the game doesn't end for everyone else.

 

[Jon]

Yeah, it doesn't happen often but does feel pretty empty. Especially in the one game I felt I was doing okay hiding and manipulating everyone.

It should probably be changed so they 'win' in regards to hall of fame points and badges, but the game doesn't end for everyone else.

Agreed. They get flagged as having won regardless of the team that wins. And they still get lynched.

Empty is a good way of putting it.

I don't like any of the "game ends immediately" roles for the same reason. Fool just feels the most empty. At least the headhunter has to do SOMETHING.

 

[Ben]

Not trying to detract from dims win, or rks game. Appreciate you both.

 

[Kat]

A mechanic that punished every player but one for just playing the game is not a fun way to lose. There is no easy way to identify the role and it causes more people to make stupid choices to avoid it.

It's just not fun in my opinion.

Yeah, it doesn't happen often but does feel pretty empty. Especially in the one game I felt I was doing okay hiding and manipulating everyone.

It should probably be changed so they 'win' in regards to hall of fame points and badges, but the game doesn't end for everyone else.

The purpose of the fool is to make the town more hesitant to lynch on incomplete info, which makes it easier for the wolves to hide. If the game continued as normal, then it wouldn't serve its purpose.

I wouldn't mind a "suicide bomber" role instead, which randomly kills like 1/4 of the town if they're lynched or something. So it doesn't completely end the game, but it'll fuck it up enough that people might still hesitate.

 

[shortkut]

A mechanic that punished every player but one for just playing the game is not a fun way to lose. There is no easy way to identify the role and it causes more people to make stupid choices to avoid it.

It's just not fun in my opinion.

How is it punishment?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

fool would have been dead if Local got to throw the second rock at you

I would have been able to change my target as the start of the next day phase, well before Local would have tossed another rock.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Also, no SK seems like an odd choice.

 

[Jon]

The purpose of the fool is to make the town more hesitant to lynch on incomplete info, which makes it easier for the wolves to hide. If the game continued as normal, then it wouldn't serve its purpose.

I understand the purpose of it. I still don't have to like it. As I said, it's my opinion. In the case of the "suicide bomber" role you presented, they are no more than a wolf. Same really with the Fool except the wolves lose too. I just don't like it. It's not fun.

How is it punishment?

Because everyone loses. What did dimmerwit specifically do to win this game? I'm not trying to diminish the win, like Ben, but making the town hesitant to use the tools given to it to eliminate the wolves (lynching) is not fun. Town gets limited kill roles and sometimes none. Taking away the only consistent one, to me, is not fun.

I'm not saying it's unfair. I think in terms of fairness, it is. It's just not fun.

I don't know about the rest of you, but the most fun games I have played have been the balls to the wall everyone blow your loads type games. Not the passive, let's mentally think about every nuance and scenario type games.



Just my opinion. Not asking for a change or anything. Just voicing an opinion. Sometimes these conversations lead to new exciting roles being added, or people stepping up to run their own versions of the game.

 

[rktaker]

Also, no SK seems like an odd choice.

i was going based on quagmire’s die hard Christmas game set up cause he had the same amount of players and he combined the third party with SK too unless i missed something

 

[shortkut]

Because everyone loses. What did dimmerwit specifically do to win this game? I'm not trying to diminish the win, like Ben, but making the town hesitant to use the tools given to it to eliminate the wolves (lynching) is not fun. Town gets limited kill roles and sometimes none. Taking away the only consistent one, to me, is not fun.

I'm not saying it's unfair. I think in terms of fairness, it is. It's just not fun.

I don't know about the rest of you, but the most fun games I have played have been the balls to the wall everyone blow your loads type games. Not the passive, let's mentally think about every nuance and scenario type games.

Someone won

Also, being the fool is walking a fine line of looking suspicious but not overly suspicious so you are obvious.

Every game has winners and losers, so this scenario has fewer winners

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I like the Fool. It's a fun role.

 

[Jon]

Someone won

Also, being the fool is walking a fine line of looking suspicious but not overly suspicious so you are obvious.

Every game has winners and losers, so this scenario has fewer winners

You asked why I thought it is a punishment. I gave you my reasons. You don't have to like them.

 

[shortkut]

You asked why I thought it is a punishment. I gave you my reasons. You don't have to like them.

 

[Kat]

I understand the purpose of it. I still don't have to like it. As I said, it's my opinion. In the case of the "suicide bomber" role you presented, they are no more than a wolf. Same really with the Fool except the wolves lose too. I just don't like it. It's not fun.

I understand, just saying that if we were to get rid of it, it needs to be replaced by something to keep the game balanced. I do like the uncertainty the fool introduces, but I agree the game suddenly ending can be frustrating.

My suggestion isn't a wolf because they could kill wolves too. The point is it'd be dangerous to everyone to lynch them.

I don't know about the rest of you, but the most fun games I have played have been the balls to the wall everyone blow your loads type games. Not the passive, let's mentally think about every nuance and scenario type games.

Oh, I love the mental part of Wolf.

 

[rktaker]

I understand the purpose of it. I still don't have to like it. As I said, it's my opinion. In the case of the "suicide bomber" role you presented, they are no more than a wolf. Same really with the Fool except the wolves lose too. I just don't like it. It's not fun.


Because everyone loses. What did dimmerwit specifically do to win this game? I'm not trying to diminish the win, like Ben, but making the town hesitant to use the tools given to it to eliminate the wolves (lynching) is not fun. Town gets limited kill roles and sometimes none. Taking away the only consistent one, to me, is not fun.

I'm not saying it's unfair. I think in terms of fairness, it is. It's just not fun.

I don't know about the rest of you, but the most fun games I have played have been the balls to the wall everyone blow your loads type games. Not the passive, let's mentally think about every nuance and scenario type games.



Just my opinion. Not asking for a change or anything. Just voicing an opinion. Sometimes these conversations lead to new exciting roles being added, or people stepping up to run their own versions of the game.

so how would people feel about a survivor role like i mentioned earlier where game doesn’t end if they are lynched and if they make it to the end they’re part of the winning team?

 

[Kat]

so how would people feel about a survivor role like i mentioned earlier where game doesn’t end if they are lynched and if they make it to the end they’re part of the winning team?

So they always win?