Active All Alert Issues

[Lunar Kreskents]

This might be too difficult of request, but I thought I would throw it out there in case someday someone is feeling ambitious.

I vaguely wish I could more easily separate my alerts into 2 group:

1. "@name replied to the thread"
2. Mentions, quotes, reactions

#1 is more threads I'm watching, and it's sometimes easy for me to miss or forget about #2 which I may intend to want to get back to someone on, if that makes any sense.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

New name suggestion for me from this:

A Lert


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[Lunar Kreskents]

New name suggestion for me from this:

A Lert

lmao fat fingered cmd + return key.... I think

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[Crystal]

Hmm. I'm not sure if that's doable, but I'll do some research

 

[Lunar Kreskents]

Hmm. I'm not sure if that's doable, but I'll do some research

I have to imagine it would require some custom development, so no rush or no worries if it's not possible!

 

[Mark]

I have to imagine it would require some custom development, so no rush or no worries if it's not possible!

For the time being, under your account preferences… you can opt to not receive notifications or alerts on specific items.

 

[Crystal]

For the time being, under your account preferences… you can opt to not receive notifications or alerts on specific items.

Very true, I forget how much customization is available

 

[Lunar Kreskents]

That may even be the better solution here, I'm gonna try that for awhile, thank you!

 

[Mark]

That may even be the better solution here, I'm gonna try that for awhile, thank you!

We will probably end up creating some kind of FAQ for our use of the forums specifically. There is a default one for XenForo, but it doesn’t have nearly as much on it as it should… you’re not the first person to ask about notifications/alerts.

 

[shortkut]

We will probably end up creating some kind of FAQ for our use of the forums specifically. There is a default one for XenForo, but it doesn’t have nearly as much on it as it should… you’re not the first person to ask about notifications/alerts.

I didn’t realize how customizable the alerts were until you pointed it out. I’m happy with my alerts in app now

 

[Lunar Kreskents]

One sort of related thing that could help might be to have some kind of helper/description text on what each of the activity areas are. At first glance it looks like this to me:

1. Whats new: New posts in any forums, including ones you don't watch?
2. New posts: Actually I thought this was something else, like new posts on forums I've posted in or something, but I think it just took a moment to get into sync with what's new, so I'm having a hard time telling the difference between What's new & new posts.
3. Your news feed: Activity on watched threds?
4. Latest activity: Activity on any threads? Although I'm not entirely sure, right now it looks very close to "your news feed", but other times looks pretty different... Possibly a "replies" rather than "threads" view of either whats new or new posts?

Halp

 

[Mark]

I didn’t realize how customizable the alerts were until you pointed it out. I’m happy with my alerts in app now

Hell yeah, earning my imaginary credits one resolved question at a time.

One sort of related thing that could help might be to have some kind of helper/description text on what each of the activity areas are. At first glance it looks like this to me:

1. Whats new: New posts in any forums, including ones you don't watch?
2. New posts: Actually I thought this was something else, like new posts on forums I've posted in or something, but I think it just took a moment to get into sync with what's new, so I'm having a hard time telling the difference between What's new & new posts.
3. Your news feed: Activity on watched threds?
4. Latest activity: Activity on any threads? Although I'm not entirely sure, right now it looks very close to "your news feed", but doesn't always... Possibly a "replies" rather than "threads" view of either whats new or new posts?

Halp

I could be wrong but “What’s New” used to encompass what you’re subscribed to that you’ve missed since your last visit.

New posts on the other hand used to show the forum’s newest posts, in most recent order.

Your news feed should be things you are subscribed to, whether they’d be subscribed threads or new threads you haven’t yet posted in in a subscribed forum.

Latest activity you have the correct idea on. It’s just a presentation difference from the others.

 

[Lunar Kreskents]

Hell yeah, earning my imaginary credits one resolved question at a time.



I could be wrong but “What’s New” used to encompass what you’re subscribed to that you’ve missed since your last visit.

New posts on the other hand used to show the forum’s newest posts, in most recent order.

Your news feed should be things you are subscribed to, whether they’d be subscribed threads or new threads you haven’t yet posted in in a subscribed forum.

Latest activity you have the correct idea on. It’s just a presentation difference from the others.

I see I see

Man there's a lot of sections. There's also your threads, threads with your posts, unanswered threads, watched forums, watched threads. I'm remembering now why I defaulted initially to the alerts page only. Is there a page you find most useful to look at?

Edit: I see New posts actually has a filter dropdown with

• Unread threads
• Watched content
• Threads in which you've participated
• Threads you've started
• Unanswered threads

so maybe I'll try that page.

 

[shortkut]

I see I see

Man there's a lot of sections. There's also your threads, threads with your posts, unanswered threads, watched forums, watched threads. I'm remembering now why I defaulted initially to the alerts page only. Is there a page you find most useful to look at?

Edit: I see New posts actually has a filter dropdown with

• Unread threads
• Watched content
• Threads in which you've participated
• Threads you've started
• Unanswered threads

so maybe I'll try that page.

This is how I set mine up

 

[Mark]

I see I see

Man there's a lot of sections. There's also your threads, threads with your posts, unanswered threads, watched forums, watched threads. I'm remembering now why I defaulted initially to the alerts page only. Is there a page you find most useful to look at?

Honestly, I go straight for the bolt at the top. It takes me right to the newest posts in every forum, and I use the bell to go through my notifications in order since it changes the background as I make way through them… leaving unread ones visibly different.

 

[Lunar Kreskents]

This is how I set mine up

I think my alerts are good now, though now that general replies are no longer in alerts page, I need to select a new place to look at them. Before I was doing something not very efficient going between alerts page and the front page and what's new kind of at random.

Honestly, I go straight for the bolt at the top. It takes me right to the newest posts in every forum, and I use the bell to go through my notifications in order since it changes the background as I make way through them… leaving unread ones visibly different.

If only I weren't ADHD I wouldn't click on things at random and then decide to come back later and forget to mark it back as unread before eagerly randomly clicking on something else that caught my eye Looks like alerts and what's new though, so maybe I'll try that combo for awhile.

Thanks ya'll!

 

[Mark]

If only I weren't ADHD I wouldn't click on things at random and then decide to come back later and forget to mark it back as unread before early randomly clicking on something else that caught my eye Looks like alerts and what's new though, so maybe I'll try that combo for awhile.

Thanks ya'll!

Oh, yeah… you’re fucked, because one way or another, it’ll never look “perfect” then… as soon as you think you’ve got it right, then some bullshit notification will come through and make you second guess the whole setup you have.

…yeah, been there, done that, waiting for the cycle to repeat itself.

 

[Lunar Kreskents]

Ohhhh Your News Feed is only content from users you follow
What's New = New posts page (xenforo default of any unread threads?) + New profile posts page
New Posts page is really a filter page rather than feed per say, where default is any unread threads but you could make it something else.

 

[shortkut]

If only I weren't ADHD I wouldn't click on things at random and then decide to come back later and forget to mark it back as unread before eagerly randomly clicking on something else that caught my eye Looks like alerts and what's new though, so maybe I'll try that combo for awhile.

Thanks ya'll!

I just got diagnosed a few years ago. Started on strattera about a week ago. It’s helping somewhat

 

[Lunar Kreskents]

I just got diagnosed a few years ago. Started on strattera about a week ago. It’s helping somewhat

"Congratulations" on getting diagnosed! That's interesting to hear. Strattera literally changed my life, partly because it ended up unintentionally treating something else obscure and partly because I could actually remember things and have an inner voice!

That said, I've heard a lot of people have a bad time with Strattera too, also for me it took at least the 6 weeks (and seemed like it continued to change subtly for like 3 months even) for the ADHD specific improvements (right away for the non-ADHD specific improvements).

I also take methylphenidate.

 

[shortkut]

"Congratulations" on getting diagnosed! That's interesting to hear. Strattera literally changed my life, partly because it ended up unintentionally treating something else obscure and partly because I could actually remember things and have an inner voice!

That said, I've heard a lot of people have a bad time with Strattera too, also for me it took at least the 6 weeks (and seemed like it continued to change subtly for like 3 months even) for the ADHD specific improvements (right away for the non-ADHD specific improvements).

I also take methylphenidate.

I’m only doing online appointments so I cannot get any stimulants. I think I need a higher dose of the strattera, but I haven’t had many adverse effects so far, so that’s good. I did a year of Wellbutrin first and had almost every side effect for the first month and it was awful… especially because it didn’t even help

 

[Lunar Kreskents]

That's super interesting. Everyone I've talked to in real life who has tried Stattera said they hated it and had terrible side effects. I had almost no side effects, and I started feeling better immediately, like within the hour, which is not how it's supposed to work.

I also tried Wellbutrin, which everyone I've talked to but one other person said they had no issues and barely noticed it if at all. By contrast, I can only describe my wellbutrin experience as what imagine it might feel like to have schizophrenia. Lights got so bright I couldn't even look at a computer screen let alone read anything. I became fixated on visual patterns and literally could not pull my eyes away, and they would start warping like I was on psychedelics or something which was freaky and dizzying. I started hearing voices that weren't there and waking up in the night to voices. I was sure people were watching me in the night. This all happened within a week, I'm not even sure I took it the full week and it was half the target dose. Took another week or so to fully wear off. Man, am I glad I did not get stuck that way, literally thought I was losing my mind, and I have never had hallucinations before.

 

[Crystal]

I've added an add-on that should do what we're hoping for. Alerts should now be grouped accordingly.

 

[Crystal]

I've temporarily disabled this add-on until we figure out how to stop it from marking alerts read automatically and not showing the little dot beside it.

 

[shortkut]

I've temporarily disabled this add-on until we figure out how to stop it from marking alerts read automatically and not showing the little dot beside it.

I can confirm the dots are back but have no new alerts to see if they are automatically read or not

 

[Crystal]

I can confirm the dots are back but have no new alerts to see if they are automatically read or not

Yeah, hopefully we've fixed at least one problem, lol

 

[Jawneh]

Is it just me who finds it annoying that clicking the Alert bell a second time brings you to the all alerts page instead of just closing the drop down? Even though I know I can't close it by clicking it again, I still subconsciously keep clicking it and having it bring me to a different page. The bottom of the drop down already has a link to all alerts, so is it useful for clicking the bell again to bring there as well? Does anyone even ever go to the all alerts page? Is this just a me problem?

 

[Crystal]

I use the alerts page, but I understand the frustration too. I'll look into a fix

 

[Kat]

Clicking the bell again for me closes the drop-down (mobile, default template). I do use the all alerts page sometimes, but I've always used the link at the bottom. That's the most convenient place for the link anyway, since I realize I need to go to the full page when I get to the end of the alert list and want to see more.

 

[Jawneh]

Maybe that's where I got it from. On mobile it does work as Kat said. Desktop though, it doesn't like to be consistent.

 

[Disgustipated]

Maybe that's where I got it from. On mobile it does work as Kat said. Desktop though, it doesn't like to be consistent.

Yeah it definitely works as you described on desktop. It drives me nuts that it isn’t consistent across the 2 since I am constantly using both lol.

 

[Crystal]

Ok, I've re-enabled this add-on in hopes it might now successfully work having resolved the auto-mark as read issue we were having. We'll leave this running for a little bit to be sure, but fingers crossed it's solved.

 

[Crystal]

Just confirmed, this add-on is still broken, will get in touch with the developer once again to see about a fix for the auto-mark as read issue.

 

[Kat]

It's a common problem that my alerts will be filled with either Wolf replies or reactions to my cat pictures or similar. I don't want to unfollow those threads because I do want those alerts, but I also would like to be able to go back and follow up on unread alerts that get lost. Is there any way to filter/sort alerts so I can easily find the unread ones?

 

[Mark]

It's a common problem that my alerts will be filled with either Wolf replies or reactions to my cat pictures or similar. I don't want to unfollow those threads because I do want those alerts, but I also would like to be able to go back and follow up on unread alerts that get lost. Is there any way to filter/sort alerts so I can easily find the unread ones?

What theme are you using? I’m on the dark one, and when I hit “show all” on my notifications, it shows all of my unread content in a different shade regardless of how far back it goes.

 

[Crystal]

This was something I was looking into before...not sure why I didn't finish sorting this. I have an add-on installed that should, theoretically, make this work. I will tinker with it and hopefully that'll solve it!

 

[Crystal]

I've activated the add-on that SHOULD make this work properly, so alerts should be grouped with unread at the top of the alerts list. Fingers crossed!

 

[Kat]

I've activated the add-on that SHOULD make this work properly, so alerts should be grouped with unread at the top of the alerts list. Fingers crossed!

I have exactly one unread at the top, and I feel like there are probably others I missed, but maybe I checked the threads at some point so they got marked read.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

This broke alerts on dark mode. At least for me. Reply to the thread to give me an alert and I'll screen shot it for you.

 

[Kat]

Replying so Alu can screenshot

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

lmao I needed to move faster and I don't have a mouse on this. It gets bright white and unreadable and then fades to being readable eventually.

 

[Kat]

Replying again! Hit that print screen button

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

Replying again! Hit that print screen button

Got it on mobile.

 

[Kat]

I feel like I have a bunch of alerts marked read even though I never read them now but I'm drunk so who knows for sure.

 

[Raine]

Got it on mobile.

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The opposite happens on the default theme on desktop. The notification is super dark (relative what it was before), and then gets lighter. Though not as light as the previously viewed notifications, and there's an obvious line break separating what should be new and what's old.

(minus the super dark coloration since I already clicked)

 

[Crystal]

That's why we uninstalled it the first time, damnit. It marks alerts read that aren't read. Ok, sorry about that, uninstalled again, back to normal. Need another solution.

 

[shortkut]

That's why we uninstalled it the first time, damnit. It marks alerts read that aren't read. Ok, sorry about that, uninstalled again, back to normal. Need another solution.

Is there a way for alerts ti only be marked as read if they are clicked on?

 

[Crystal]

Is there a way for alerts ti only be marked as read if they are clicked on?

That's the default behaviour (well, clicked on or actually reading the thread), I'm not sure why the add-on I installed changed that.

 

[Kat]

That's why we uninstalled it the first time, damnit. It marks alerts read that aren't read. Ok, sorry about that, uninstalled again, back to normal. Need another solution.

Thanks for trying!