2024-2025 NHL Thread

[Crystal]

who's ready for a remake of a movie we saw last year and with probably the same ending too?

Panturds 2, filthy boogaloo

 

[canadaguy]

I think it comes down to whether Florida can contain McJesus. Last year they were able, but dude seems locked in this year.

 

[MC74]

Marner reportedly done as a Maple Leaf. He's set to test FA.

 

[MC74]

That certainly didn't take long.

 

[MC74]

And now it's the Panthers who have the lead all of a sudden.

 

[Jon]

Marner reportedly done as a Maple Leaf. He's set to test FA.

He would look good in Black and Gold wearing the spoked B, not gonna lie.

 

[canadaguy]

Suck it Florida

 

[Crystal]

He would look good in Black and Gold wearing the spoked B, not gonna lie.

He wants to go to West, apparently, so...tough luck, Bahstin.

 

[Jon]

He wants to go to West, apparently, so...tough luck, Bahstin.

Yeah, Boston has always had trouble attracting free agents since this push to fair weather cities. I get it in baseball and football. Not in hockey or basketball.

 

[MC74]

Back to Marner, because I've got some choice words for him & his camp after the way they've been badmouthing the team on the way out, talking about how he feels disrespected by the organization.

Well, let me tell you something right now. Marner & his camp played this game. They held out because they wanted Matthews money, they wanted the captaincy. But when it was all said & done, they got what they wanted. Marner got his $11M contract, and whether anyone thought it was a fair contract or not, the fact of the matter is, management trusted this guy enough to give him that much money. They saw him as a core piece going forward, so for them, it was justifiable.

But for as much as the organization invested in this core, it's only fair to expect a return on investment. After all, that's part of doing business. You want to see your investments pay off. You want to see results, and not just in the regular season, but in the playoffs too. As far as the latter is concerned however, they haven't lived up to their end of the bargain. The team has saw players shuffled in & out of the lineup, 2 major shakeups behind the bench, and changes in the front office. Yet, the core remained intact, and the result has always been the same. So after all that, can you really blame management for wanting to explore moving on? I think not, and for Marner's camp to whine about that is downright silly. Management has never been shy in going the distance to do everything in their power to accommodate this team. They sure as shit haven't been shy in throwing as much money at almost everything for the last decade either. They've given the core pieces everything they wanted contractually since they came off their ELCs. They make more money here than most comparables, they have NMCs, and they have a full bonus structure. Not a single one of them has a leg to stand on when it comes to how this organization has treated them.

If there's anything management deserves to be criticized for, it's running it back when the writing has been on the wall for years now, and also for Shanahan allowing Marner's NTC to kick in. He knew full well the consequences of that. But to talk as if there's been this lack of respect after all the trust that was put into this whole process is utter bullshit.

Going back, I will also say the the crap Marner put up from Babcock was shitty, and the Schedule B stuff was handled poorly, but even still, that doesn't justify or excuse his actions. Even aside from those incidents from Lamoriello & Babcock, the fact management held so much belief in the core in the face of so much adversity speaks volume as to how much belief they held in this group. It's just too bad Marner's took it for granted, and that he's decided to burn this bridge on the way out.

 

[Crystal]

Stars fire coach DeBoer after West final loss

Dallas Stars coach Pete DeBoer was fired Friday after three seasons with the team, getting to the Western Conference final each time but never advancing past that for a shot at the Stanley Cup.

www.espn.com

Peace

 

[canadaguy]

Yeah not surprising. He dug his own grave with those post series comments.

 

[Jon]

Never toss your players under a bus. Fastest way to lose the locker room.

 

[Crystal]

Yeah not surprising. He dug his own grave with those post series comments.

100%, he just took a bad situation and made it nuclear with that one stupid move. I mean pulling Otter was stupid anyway, but throwing him under the bus was arguably the dumbest thing a coach could do after a loss like that. Idiotic, and he got exactly what he deserved.

Never toss your players under a bus. Fastest way to lose the locker room.

Truth. No wonder he's never won a cup.

 

[canadaguy]

100%, he just took a bad situation and made it nuclear with that one stupid move. I mean pulling Otter was stupid anyway, but throwing him under the bus was arguably the dumbest thing a coach could do after a loss like that. Idiotic, and he got exactly what he deserved.

I don't necessarily disagree with pulling him. It was an elimination game, and he needed some way to try to wake the team up. That move has worked before, but really didn't here.

Blaming the loss on Oettinger is out to lunch though. The team in front of him was fucking asleep. 5 goals in the last 4 games of that series. Short of him getting a shut out every game, you aren't going to win often with that offensive output. Oettinger didn't have a great series, but the rest of the team was worse.

 

[Crystal]

I don't necessarily disagree with pulling him. It was an elimination game, and he needed some way to try to wake the team up. That move has worked before, but really didn't here.

Blaming the loss on Oettinger is out to lunch though. The team in front of him was fucking asleep. 5 goals in the last 4 games of that series. Short of him getting a shut out every game, you aren't going to win often with that offensive output. Oettinger didn't have a great series, but the rest of the team was worse.

Can't shake a team up that's in a coma, that's for sure.

 

[MC74]

PP goal from Bennett puts the Panthers on the board early on.

 

[MC74]

There we go, Edmonton's back in this.

 

[MC74]

Bennett just assassinated Skinner.

 

[MC74]

But Drai makes those sons of bitches pay! Fuck yes!

 

[canadaguy]

Shooting gallery today

 

[MC74]

Watching the Oilers play, how much they've grown as a group over the years, how dialed in they are, and then compare that to the Toronto Maple Leafs....smfh, it makes me sad that the Leafs have never been able to step up to that level of play.

 

[canadaguy]

Watching the Oilers play, how much they've grown as a group over the years, how dialed in they are, and then compare that to the Toronto Maple Leafs....smfh, it makes me sad that the Leafs have never been able to step up to that level of play.

I think it also speaks to the leadership qualities of the captains.

McDavid is just on a completely different level.

 

[MC74]

For anyone who didn't catch it, Bennett taking the opportunity to take down Skinner as soon as he felt contact.

 

[canadaguy]

Panthers fans bitching about unfair ref treatment is really something.

But I guess when you are given carte blanche, finally getting your hand slapped might be tough to stomach

 

[canadaguy]

Ekholm gently nudging Bennet away from Skinner and Bennet flops like he took a cross check from the complete opposite direction

 

[MC74]

Panthers fans bitching about unfair ref treatment is really something.

But I guess when you are given carte blanche, finally getting your hand slapped might be tough to stomach

It will make it all the much sweeter if Edmonton can pull this off. They can take their USA chants and shove them somewhere where the sun doesn't shine.

 

[canadaguy]

Panthers blow the lead late and immediately go right to the cheap shots at the end of the period

 

[Jon]

I'm so fucking tired of Sam Bennet and his dirty play. Every series he's elbowing someone or cheap shotting another. At some point you need to stop treating him like a golden boy and suspend his sorry ass. Marchand used to get penalized and suspended regularly for things not nearly as egregious. Bennet HURTS people and they do nothing.

I'm sorry, but it's time to take matters into your own hands. First shift, send out some good against Bennett and just flatline him. Who cares about the misconduct, who cares about the major penalty, who cares about a suspension. Take him out and then after the game say "The league refuses to do anything about this dirty piece of shit, so we did."

 

[MC74]

I got some good news for once. Sam Bennett has reportedly crossed the Leafs off his destination list according to Dreger, so hopefully we won't have to worry about overpaying for his sorry ass.

 

[Jon]

I got some good news for once. Sam Bennett has reportedly crossed the Leafs off his destination list according to Dreger, so hopefully we won't have to worry about overpaying for his sorry ass.

lol…. Let him stay in Florida with that pos organization

 

[MC74]

lol…. Let him stay in Florida with that pos organization

As long as he's not in the bleu et blanc, I don't care where he goes.

 

[Jon]

His dirty ass should retire

 

[MC74]

His dirty ass should retire

Someone can always put his ass into retirement.

 

[Jon]

Someone can always put his ass into retirement.

I wish. I wish someone would elbow him the way he does it to everyone else

 

[MC74]

I wish. I wish someone would elbow him the way he does it to everyone else

Not usually the one to condone that type of hockey, but when the league isn't going to do squat about it, someone has to.

 

[Crystal]

Let him go to some team that's got no hope in the near future, like...idk, San Jose? They've got Celebrini and...who? That's kind of it.

 

[MC74]

Marchand already puts the Panthers up 1-0.

 

[MC74]

2-0 Panthers end of the first. Tons of penalties called in this one again.

 

[MC74]

The shitstain gets one too. It's 4-1 Panthers and no signs of them letting up.

 

[MC74]

It would seem the Panthers' physical style of play is taking its toll on the Oilers. McDavid & Draisaitl have especially been battered tonight, and you can tell frustration is starting to set in with the team.

 

[MC74]

We just had a brawl after Frederic cross checked and broke his stick over Bennett's back.

 

[Jon]

We just had a brawl after Frederic cross checked and broke his stick over Bennett's back.

Good

 

[MC74]

9 PPs for Florida tonight. Oof.

 

[MC74]

Make that a total of 10.

 

[Jon]

Hey, Gary, your bias is showing again!

 

[MC74]

Penalty #11 against the Oilers. Might as well go out there and wreak havoc.

 

[MC74]

6-1 Panthers the final score. I think Edmonton's in trouble, they can't afford another loss against a team that looks nigh unstoppable.

 

[MC74]

Last night's game saw the Panthers totally dismantle the Oilers physically & mentally. They played their style of hockey to perfection, got into the Oilers' heads, and were very effective in shutting down the duo of McDavid & Draisaitl. You could clearly see the Oilers were visibly frustrated. They broke down, took stupid penalties, and played right into Florida's hands.

They're going to have to respond better in the next game, because if not, you're looking at Florida repeating as cup champions.

 

[Jon]

They're going to have to respond better in the next game, because if not, you're looking at Florida repeating as cup champions.