Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 2

[Jon]

I meant moreso about the direct interaction between a Corrupter kill and a Violinist.

Oh, I'm just assuming. I don't know. The role of the dead is hidden by the corruptor. I would assume someone's check that checks team alignment would still return correct information.

@Zell 17 can you confirm?

 

[VashTheStampede]

I meant moreso about the direct interaction between a Corrupter kill and a Violinist.

 

[Benzine]

@TD can you refer me to where you first clear Vash? I'm struggling to find it so far. Even if just which thread and roughly which page.

 

[Jon]

1 hour guys.

With this, I am fine lynching either Dean or Raine.

I would prefer saving Benzine for a night to give him a chance to prove himself. If he doesn't, I'll bring my fire and pitchfork.

 

[Zell 17]

Oh, I'm just assuming. I don't know. The role of the dead is hidden by the corruptor. I would assume someone's check that checks team alignment would still return correct information.

@Zell 17 can you confirm?

A Violinist check tonight would be checked again Raposuh as he was the first to die during the night. A Violinist would be notified that the person he checked is or is not on the same team as Raposuh.

 

[Benzine]

With this, I am fine lynching either Dean or Raine.

I would prefer saving Benzine for a night to give him a chance to prove himself. If he doesn't, I'll bring my fire and pitchfork.

How do you think I would prove myself? What could I possible say tomorrow that would help?

 

[Jon]

@TD can you refer me to where you first clear Vash? I'm struggling to find it so far. Even if just which thread and roughly which page.

1050 posts and 100s from him... I don't wanna find it, but he originally said something like kut/cupid and someone he doesn't want to name.

I pressed him a couple times and he gave a weird ass riddle that pointed to Vash.

 

[Benzine]

I think I might be best served by dying at this point.

 

[TD]

@TD can you refer me to where you first clear Vash? I'm struggling to find it so far. Even if just which thread and roughly which page.

Oh fuck me.

I'll try.

 

[Jon]

How do you think I would prove myself? What could I possible say tomorrow that would help?

I can't tell you that, because it would just give you plenty of room to lie if you're a wolf.

I can pass my own judgment based on who you check and what the result is.

 

[Benzine]

1050 posts and 100s from him... I don't wanna find it, but he originally said something like kut/cupid and someone he doesn't want to name.

I pressed him a couple times and he gave a weird ass riddle that pointed to Vash.

I saw that post and it doesn't clear Vash so...

 

[TD]

Pretty much the only truly provable roles are kill roles.

...or death.

 

[Benzine]

I just want to verify, that's all. While I didn't clear Vash, you might've picked up that I was telling the truth about him being innocent, and are being obtuse about that now to help disguise it, and went with it from there.

 

[Jon]

I think I might be best served by dying at this point.

If you really are who you say you are, you house potentially vital information....

 

[Local Hero]

Corruptor
Aura: Unknown
Can kill one player at night. Cannot be killed by the wolves at night. Cannot stack kills, it's use it or lose it. The player killed will not have their role revealed to the village and cannot be revived.

i just read this role for the first time...lol

interesting that wolves can't kill them at night. They need to be lynched.

Unless we her lucky right now that's almost guaranteed two night kills (corruptor and wolf kill)

 

[Jon]

I saw that post and it doesn't clear Vash so...

I'm just telling you were he said it... not that I believe it.

 

[Benzine]

I'm just telling you were he said it... not that I believe it.

C'mon bro, I'm asking where he cleared Vash and you referred to a post in which Vash was not cleared in.

And I don't know what you think my role does, I've already shared all the info I have or can possibly have at this point.

 

[Jon]

interesting that wolves can't kill them at night. They need to be lynched.

Afaik, none of the SK roles can be killed by wolves.

 

[Jon]

C'mon bro, I'm asking where he cleared Vash and you referred to a post in which Vash was not cleared in.

And I don't know what you think my role does, I've already shared all the info I have or can possibly have at this point.

That IS where he cleared Vash... that's what I'm telling you.

And your role is EVERY night that I read.... You are STILL valuable... if you are who you say you are.

 

[Benzine]

I know some people here will believe I put Vash in my spreadsheet joke as a reverse herring, for if I do die - as they'll know I knew something and it was the only piece of non-joke on the list. If TD doesn't clear before that comment, I'm sure it'll sway some people my way.

 

[Benzine]

That IS where he cleared Vash... that's what I'm telling you.

And your role is EVERY night that I read.... You are STILL valuable... if you are who you say you are.

Jon, please, slow down and read a bit more.

We are discussing how would I know if Vash is good, TD is saying I'm just saying it cause he did.

I want to know when TD actually said it.

 

[Benzine]

TD has hit me with the wut so I think I might be about to find out I've gone blind haha

 

[TD]

TD has hit me with the wut so I think I might be about to find out I've gone blind haha

This is a time where my post count backfires.

 

[Benzine]

This is a time where my post count backfires.

Let's rehash it then

When did you search Vash

 

[TD]

Let's rehash it then

When did you search Vash

Last night. With shortkut.

 

[Benzine]

Then, my post was 49 minutes after the day opened where I first say Vash is good, on a list with dead people and me. Not many posts before that, comparatively speaking. I'll go check them out.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Post 298 is the one TD put his riddle in.

 

[Jon]

Jon, please, slow down and read a bit more.

We are discussing how would I know if Vash is good, TD is saying I'm just saying it cause he did.

I want to know when TD actually said it.

I was just answering your question. I saw you this morning say Vash is good. I don't know the timing.

I'm CHOOSING to trust you right now, even is TD is throwing sus at you. I WANT you to check again tonight because I think it would be valuable information. That's all.

I wasn't trying to argue timing or anything. I was giving you the general post of when he cleared vash himself.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Benzine made a spreadsheet where the only "not wolves" listed were himself, the two proven townies that are dead, and Vash, before post 100 on the day.

 

[TD]

Then, my post was 49 minutes after the day opened where I first say Vash is good, on a list with dead people and me. Not many posts before that, comparatively speaking. I'll go check them out.

But only now-ish did you say why you did that.

You mentioned if I point it out I can sway people your way but I also never said I want to do that. I posted a list of 4 suspects earlier and you weren't on it.

I think your claim is bs, almost like your claim yesterday. The thing is - not all role claims that are dishonest are malicious. You could be honest yesterday, you could be honest today, you could be lying both times.

I'm trying to figure out why.

 

[Benzine]

Post 298 is the one TD put his riddle in.

You're a good man and I dearly hope you're not a wolf.

So friends and family, if you think I'm just saying that Vash is good cause TD did, here's my first mention of Vash being good. Yes, in amongst a joke to be fair - I believe some of you will be able to split the fact from the fiction/funny in the context of the conversation. I can explain the joke aspects further if need be.

mine is hard to beat

Hopefully this clears me enough.

TD could be good but could be taking the cue from me.

Either way. Doing my part.

 

[Benzine]

But only now-ish did you say why you did that.

You mentioned if I point it out I can sway people your way but I also never said I want to do that. I posted a list of 4 suspects earlier and you weren't on it.

I think your claim is bs, almost like your claim yesterday. The thing is - not all role claims that are dishonest are malicious. You could be honest yesterday, you could be honest today, you could be lying both times.

I'm trying to figure out why.

What claim did I make yesterday? Just that I'm a good guy?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

You're a good man and I dearly hope you're not a wolf.

So friends and family, if you think I'm just saying that Vash is good cause TD did, here's my first mention of Vash being good. Yes, in amongst a joke to be fair - I believe some of you will be able to split the fact from the fiction/funny in the context of the conversation. I can explain the joke aspects further if need be.



Hopefully this clears me enough.

TD could be good but could be taking the cue from me.

Either way. Doing my part.

I am not wolf (nor am I corrupt).

I hope to kill wolves and the corrupt.

 

[Jon]

Post 17 was the first time TD mentioned his check. FYI.

 

[TD]

What claim did I make yesterday? Just that I'm a good guy?

It was a very strong implication that you were a role that didn't need protection.

Yet today you asked for protection.

Something you're doing isn't making sense.

 

[Jon]

I am not wolf (nor am I corrupt).

I hope to kill wolves and the corrupt.

Have I missed you alluding to your role? I would love to clear someone else on my spreadsheet.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

What claim did I make yesterday? Just that I'm a good guy?

He's saying that you were telling people to not target you for protection because you'd want to be targeted and would have a good action out of it (like flagger or tough guy).

I'll ask this:

If someone says "don't protect me" and you're a wolf reading that, would you target that person without knowing who they really are?

 

[Benzine]

It was a very strong implication that you were a role that didn't need protection.

Yet today you asked for protection.

Something you're doing isn't making sense.

Yeah I was lying, it's a deception game, I'd love to be protected - I've been through that logic though. If you piece it all together, you will see it fits. Yes, I can be lying and planning it to be truthful, sure. If you want to hinge it on a guess rather than as a natural reaction to everything that has happened, then I know you'll know you're playing bad.

If you are a good role you're just not reading something or letting it connect properly/having a moment.

 

[Local Hero]

I am not wolf (nor am I corrupt).

I hope to kill wolves and the corrupt.

Cupid target?

 

[Jon]

It was a very strong implication that you were a role that didn't need protection.

Yet today you asked for protection.

Something you're doing isn't making sense.

I really don't think we all play the meta game the way you think we do....

I can buy his story of not asking for protection as a way to live through the night to use his powers.

I don't think EVERYTHING has to be some grandiose plan that is like a borderless puzzle.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Have I missed you alluding to your role? I would love to clear someone else on my spreadsheet.

I have not and have no way of proving my role without dying, sadly.

 

[Benzine]

He's saying that you were telling people to not target you for protection because you'd want to be targeted and would have a good action out of it (like flagger or tough guy).

I'll ask this:

If someone says "don't protect me" and you're a wolf reading that, would you target that person without knowing who they really are?

And would you even want to spend a search if you have a search role to find out? It's hardly the most important role.

 

[TD]

Yeah I was lying, it's a deception game, I'd love to be protected - I've been through that logic though. If you piece it all together, you will see it fits. Yes, I can be lying and planning it to be truthful, sure. If you want to hinge it on a guess rather than as a natural reaction to everything that has happened, then I know you'll know you're playing bad.

If you are a good role you're just not reading something or letting it connect properly/having a moment.

The way I play this game is I look for lies and that's what I hone in on.

In your case, you're claiming it's not maliciously but there's no way for me to know that yet.

 

[Jon]

I have not and have no way of proving my role without dying, sadly.

Fair enough. Was just curious if I outright missed it.

 

[Avenger]

We could hope for the ultimate relay of lynch the wolf avenger, who avenge kills the avenger, who avenge kills a wolf

I feel like I need to tag @Avenger in this post even though he's not playing.

ATTENTION THE GREAT AVENGER HAS SOMETHING TO SAY

Avenger is very confused.
THE GREAT AVENGER HAS SPOKEN

 

[Jon]

Ironic that @Dean and @Raine control the outcome of this vote right now...

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Cupid target?

That's where you jump when I said I want to kill all the people who are not town?

 

[Benzine]

ATTENTION THE GREAT AVENGER HAS SOMETHING TO SAY

Avenger is very confused.
THE GREAT AVENGER HAS SPOKEN

There's a role named for you. You are Negasonic pre-buff.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Ironic that @Dean and @Raine control the outcome of this vote right now...

Fitting

 

[TD]

Keep an eye on anyone that drops out to bring us below 6.