Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 2

[Jon]

I don't even use the runway.

 

[finlandguy]

• Local claims bell ringer
• Outs shortkut as cupid
• Jawneh implies he's one part of a couple

I guess I should clear this out before it ends me. That was just Local going crazy on bell ringer fumes. Didn't help that I said I don't believe him yet.

And the only kut has love comment was only a retort back at Local since he said he rung the bell on kut and found cupid after saying he has no love for me.

You could read that as Local saying he has love for someone else.

 

[Smacktard]

Oh fuck me.

I'll entertain this.

Which of those guys is the mastermind on a play like that?

And that's where my theory falls apart

 

[shortkut]

Over 300 posts into the day and no one has more than 1 vote at the moment, lol

 

[shortkut]

Oh fuck me.

I'll entertain this.

Which of those guys is the mastermind on a play like that?

 

[Jon]

I had it on Raine, but that's because I thought the day ended at 9am and I wanted to have one there. Raine is still a top suspect of mine, but I want to hold the actual vote for now.

 

[TD]

I guess I should clear this out before it ends me. That was just Local going crazy on bell ringer fumes. Didn't help that I said I don't believe him yet.

And the only kut has love comment was only a retort back at Local since he said he rung the bell on kut and found cupid after saying he has no love for me.

You could read that as Local saying he has love for someone else.

Who are you defending here and..

Why?

 

[TD]

And how's the plan coming along?

 

[finlandguy]

I'm switching my vote to Kelly.

This theorizing Kelly is nice and all, but it's a good ways away from the good ol' more helpful and slightly more pushy townie Kelly. And def not as blunt as smash Kelly.

Who are you defending here and..

Why?

Only myself from the odd supposed "cupid couple revelation" read that at least three folks read into now.

And because it's not my time to die.

 

[shortkut]

And how's the plan coming along?

This is but step 4 in our simple and easy to implement 273 step plan to have a flawless victory

 

[shortkut]

And because it's not my time to die.

I gotchu boo

 

[TD]

This is but step 4 in our simple and easy to implement 273 step plan to have a flawless victory

I did not expect that second number to be 273 wow.

 

[TD]

I had it on Raine, but that's because I thought the day ended at 9am and I wanted to have one there. Raine is still a top suspect of mine, but I want to hold the actual vote for now.

Votes can change and nobody is even close to the minimum. You gotta read all these people trying to talk in hints of varying degrees of subtlely to the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the fucking face. Then figure out if it's even the truth.

 

[Jon]

Votes can change and nobody is even close to the minimum. You gotta read all these people trying to talk in hints of varying degrees of subtlely to the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the fucking face. Then figure out if it's even the truth.

Yeah, I'm def not there yet. I have no idea what is and isn't a hint. I don't know the roles well enough, and everything being hidden is harder.

 

[TD]

Yeah, I'm def not there yet. I have no idea what is and isn't a hint. I don't know the roles well enough, and everything being hidden is harder.

It'll come with time.

 

[TD]

Alu out there in the background with stealth vote changing and shit. He's either a very indecisive townie or has a very corrupted mind.

 

[shortkut]

I did not expect that second number to be 273 wow.

If there was a fool or headhunter it would become convoluted and require 518 steps

 

[TD]

Yeah, I'm def not there yet. I have no idea what is and isn't a hint. I don't know the roles well enough, and everything being hidden is harder.

But actually a genuine tip.
Fuck it, free tips at all.

Look for shit that you don't think you'd hear in a conversation. That's your starting point.

This person may also be deranged.

 

[Jon]

Look for shit that you don't think you'd hear in a conversation. That's your starting point.

There is a LOT of stuff I wouldn't hear in a conversation.

For starters, pretty much everything Kut says.

 

[TD]

There is a LOT of stuff I wouldn't hear in a conversation.

For starters, pretty much everything Kut says.

This is a "read the fine print" situation.

 

[Jon]

This is a "read the fine print" situation.

I read it. But again, you described probably 12/16 of us.

 

[TD]

I read it. But again, you described probably 12/16 of us.

See.. here's the odd thing to me.

You say 12/16 of us. The interesting thing about that is, there's 10 townies, 2 solos, and 4 wolves.

16-12=4

The mind will always take you down the simplest math solution for you. You then select that one or dig deeper.

4 was simple.

I hope it was a bad mistake but for now I'm changing my vote.. to you..

 

[Jon]

See.. here's the odd thing to me.

You say 12/16 of us. The interesting thing about that is, there's 10 townies, 2 solos, and 4 wolves.

16-12=4

The mind will always take you down the simplest math solution for you. You then select that one or dig deeper.

4 was simple.

I hope it was a bad mistake but for now I'm changing my vote.. to you..

I literally picked 12 out of my ass.

 

[Smacktard]

I'm switching my vote to Kelly.

This theorizing Kelly is nice and all, but it's a good ways away from the good ol' more helpful and slightly more pushy townie Kelly. And def not as blunt as smash Kelly.

You know that voting from me after I introduce an outlandish theory that involves you does not help your case, right?

But damn man, give me a chance to wake up, sheesh.

If there was a fool or headhunter it would become convoluted and require 518 steps

The stars would have to align pretty perfectly. You'd need:

1. Corruptor OR Illusionist OR Role-hide wolf
2. Non-Cupid Random Voter

Damn, I'm lost in the complexity of this already.

 

[Smacktard]

Anyway, now I have some more time to be helpful. I'm curious if @Alu found out anything last night. He mentioned he had no leads yesterday. Anything today?

 

[finlandguy]

You know that voting from me after I introduce an outlandish theory that involves you does not help your case, right?

That's on me for not entertaining Local when he first spurred that out in the open and confront my wording then. If your theory was more beyond more than rehashing Local's opportunistic grasping after his one hurrah, I'd entertain it. But you saw that at least Jon read into it wrong, kut of course would be game no matter what as it its heat off the real couple, so it's an easy finger pointer at me.

 

[Jon]

I hope it was a bad mistake but for now I'm changing my vote.. to you..

I guess the good news is, those that pile onto me are wolves or the SK. I'm most definitely not either. I've made my role clear, and the only reason I've been as verbal and not checking my statements is because I thought I made crystal clear I am a townie.

But you saw that at least Jon read into it wrong

I'm sorry, i did what now? I haven't read into anything Kelly has said.

 

[TD]

I guess the good news is, those that pile onto me are wolves or the SK. I'm most definitely not either. I've made my role clear, and the only reason I've been as verbal and not checking my statements is because I thought I made crystal clear I am a townie.

Why oh why would you foil my vote pattern trap.

 

[finlandguy]

I'm sorry, i did what now? I haven't read into anything Kelly has said.

It was the weird thing a little further back where Local though I was insinuating being one half of the couple and you said you also read me as that.

Bad wording in my part again. Bah.

 

[Jon]

Why oh why would you foil my vote pattern trap.

I can delete it...

EDIT - I mean... at least I saw what you were doing... that's a plus... right?

 

[Jon]

It was the weird thing a little further back where Local though I was insinuating being one half of the couple and you said you also read me as that.

Bad wording in my part again. Bah.

Oh, I see. I was just noting oddities. I saw that as odd. That's all.

 

[Smacktard]

kut of course would be game no matter what as it its heat off the real couple

That makes sense. But he's also been dismissive of my theory that it's possible y'all are in cahoots. If he were trying to throw heat off the "real" couple, would he be mocking it so openly? I don't know.

Anyway, like I said, I don't think the theory is the most likely explanation, but IF one of that group I listed turns out to be a wolf, I know where I'm looking first for the next one.

It was the weird thing a little further back where Local though I was insinuating being one half of the couple and you said you also read me as that.

Bad wording in my part again. Bah.

It may have been bad wording, but it's not like anyone was wilfully misinterpreting what you said. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now, but it really did seem like you confessed to being Cupid'd, and are now trying to take that back. I can't read the comment you made any other way.

 

[Smacktard]

Btw @Jon I think we have enough information to lynch today, and ironically with the Corruptor role in play the longer the game goes on, the less information we have.

Whether we should go after the Corruptor or the wolves first is a toss-up. There's always the possibility that Raposa was a wolf, and they're down to 3.

So far we know we have two strong villagers dead. It really does seem like the wolves have one or two seers, or they're getting really lucky with their wolfkill picks.

Btw:
I'm voting Dean unless he gives me a good reason not to.

 

[Jon]

Btw @Jon I think we have enough information to lynch today, and ironically with the Corruptor role in play the longer the game goes on, the less information we have.

I do not disagree. I think there is enough info. I think we're going to have a hard time coming to a consensus potentially. The group of people I trust is very small right now and the amount of information is less.

I can't help but think the Corruptor needs to go as fast as we can identify with any semblance of information. It's a role with a continuous kill that hides information. It seems like the most dangerous role that could have been drawn. I would imagine the wolves are the only ones not worried about it right now.

 

[Smacktard]

@Dean Why did you vote for Benzine?

@Alu Why did you vote for me?

@VashTheStampede Why did you vote for TD?

The other votes so far... I get.

 

[Smacktard]

I would imagine the wolves are the only ones not worried about it right now.

Depends on if they tagged a wolf last not or not, I guess.

 

[finlandguy]

It may have been bad wording, but it's not like anyone was wilfully misinterpreting what you said. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now, but it really did seem like you confessed to being Cupid'd, and are now trying to take that back. I can't read the comment you made any other way.

If I was part of the couple, it would make no sense for me to out myself at this point of the game. Too big of a target for all teams to look at. If theres two townies in the couple, the wolves will murder me right away. Two wolves, amazing deal for the town. One of each, still net positive for town and best case scenario for the corruptor. If this was later in the game, it could make sense to come forward to cook something. At this time I'd be ruining it for any team combination possible.

Again, if I was part of the couple.

And while I was driving home from work and typing this, i did realize something. Due to that, I'm going back to basics and vote Benzine again.

 

[TD]

Guys the only way we should be focusing on the couple is if we're dealing with what may be a wolf and solo killer/wolf.

Because that's a pretty apparent possibility based on the last two nights.

 

[shortkut]

Damn, I'm lost in the complexity of this already.

It’s okay. Not everyone is built to scheme

 

[shortkut]

Guys the only way we should be focusing on the couple is if we're dealing with what may be a wolf and solo killer/wolf.

Because that's a pretty apparent possibility based on the last two nights.

That would be great for me

 

[TD]

That would be great for me

The blunt fucking honesty holy shit.

 

[Smacktard]

Guys the only way we should be focusing on the couple is if we're dealing with what may be a wolf and solo killer/wolf.

Because that's a pretty apparent possibility based on the last two nights.

What's your logic? If that were the case, wouldn't the Corruptor have netted a kill the first night as well?

Unless they targetted protection, I guess.

 

[TD]

What's your logic? If that were the case, wouldn't the Corruptor have netted a kill the first night as well?

Unless they targetted protection, I guess.

Yeah protection was the first thought that crossed my mind.

Could also be someone who missed the 12 hour window...

 

[VashTheStampede]

@VashTheStampede Why did you vote for TD?

Normally by now he's a lot more focused but he's being very scattershot. Full of sound and Fury, signifying nothing. Looks like he's helping, but he's really just giving a bunch of threads to follow and lead nowhere.

Then when I accused him of a Freudian slip, his reaction did not feel genuine. A little outsized.

So I put my vote on him to see what his reaction would be. There was none. Any other game he'd be launching a counter investigation into me.

To me that says he's either sus AF or I'm the other person he cleared last night.

He's not the top of my list, but he's on it.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Yeah protection was the first thought that crossed my mind.

Could also be someone who missed the 12 hour window...

I feel like we would have heard from a protector if the former happened so the latter feels legitimate.

 

[Benzine]

good morning

 

[Benzine]

fuck i should go to bed, good night

 

[VashTheStampede]

good morning

 

[Smacktard]

Normally by now he's a lot more focused but he's being very scattershot. Full of sound and Fury, signifying nothing. Looks like he's helping, but he's really just giving a bunch of threads to follow and lead nowhere.

Then when I accused him of a Freudian slip, his reaction did not feel genuine. A little outsized.

So I put my vote on him to see what his reaction would be. There was none. Any other game he'd be launching a counter investigation into me.

To me that says he's either sus AF or I'm the other person he cleared last night.

He's not the top of my list, but he's on it.

Fair enough, there's some logic to your vote. For now it seems like you're legit. FWIW I've accused TD before a couple of times without him really reacting though.

I'm inclined to believe him because he said I'm blue, but also because I don't see the point of a wolf claiming spirit seer and then finding blue 2 nights in a row.

 

[Benzine]

vash is innocent, i cleared him last night, ezpz.