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Crystal...or Apollo?

Crystal

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Hey all,

I'm Crystal, the former GW Admin known as Apollo (sorry you never got the chance to meet the real me prior to GW closing, it took me years of guilt and repression to finally see myself)...My technical registration date was June 01, but I was around quite a bit before that, lurking and being curious :D. Loved my time with GW, loved getting to be on staff on several occasions, climbing the ranks, even becoming an Administrator. It was an honour to give back to a place that gave me so much. In lieu of having the old community database back, I thought we'd have a sort of virtual homage, right here.

Anything you fancy knowing about me, ask away!

Ok, ok, I did a proper introduction, too -- https://gwforums.com/threads/crystal-or-apollo.9/page-2#post-2761
 
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Crystal

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Yeah this is cool. I fully plan on participating until I don't, then vanishing for a while before repeating the cycle. Gotta keep traditions up.
All good, I'm sure we'll get a lot people doing that, since we're all groweded up now :D

I'll have to find a bot script or something to post some Al-isms. "Thanks, I'll change them shortly!"
 

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Welcome to your own forum!

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Hey all,

I'm Crystal, the former GW Admin known as Apollo (sorry you never got the chance to meet the real me prior to GW closing, it took me years of guilt and repression to finally see myself)...My technical registration date was June 01, but I was around quite a bit before that, lurking and being curious :D. Loved my time with GW, loved getting to be on staff on several occasions, climbing the ranks, even becoming an Administrator. It was an honour to give back to a place that gave me so much. In lieu of having the old community database back, I thought we'd have a sort of virtual homage, right here.

Anything you fancy knowing about me, ask away!
Apollo? Holy shit I remember you. Glad to see you're doing well
 

Crystal

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Ok, ok, fine, I'll follow the trend and do a proper introduction.

So as you've probably learned by this point, my name is Crystal, formerly known as Apollo, I joined GameWinners officially in June of 2001, but I was very much present before that time, lurking and browsing the cheats sections. Number 22057 :D. I had been a part of several forums before GW, but none of them really struck a chord with me as a place I wanted to dedicate a lot of time to until GW. I started interacting within the WWF No Mercy forum and slowly but surely spread to more and more forums and very quickly GW went from a place to talk shop about No Mercy to a forum home. It became special, somewhere I could come and chat with friends I enjoyed talking to. I clung to that hard and worked to become a part of the GW fabric. Eventually I got the chance for a mod vote for Classic Systems, I passed and was added in November 2001. I stayed on as a mod, essentially in the background, until 2005 when my issues with depression went from bad to extreme. I kept a small forum project open so I still had a little connection to forums, but inside I was a mess. Online, offline I was shutting down. It took everything I had to put on the smiling face and be happy around anyone that contacted me for a chat. I went to college, earned a degree, wasn't satisfied, so I earned another. I wrapped myself up in coursework so I didn't have to face reality. I wracked up debt because of it, but managed to get my Masters of Science in Information Technology with a concentration on Systems and Information Security. Sounds impressive, it really isn't.

Not long after I started working for a small business as a Java programmer, porting legacy software to new code, it was loan origination software for banks, and not long after that I was helping develop the newest versions. I made a good living, I enjoyed the workload, I had great benefits, but none of it mattered, I was miserable, depressed, fighting within myself each and every day to keep moving forward. I rejoined GW, even got re-promoted to moderator, and then super moderator somehow. Then admin when Ben left, but for all I put back into GW I still felt lost, worthless, empty. I knew things about myself that needed addressed, but I couldn't be open about them. Anyway, long story short I was a bundle of blah waiting to explode and trying my best to put on a happy face while around the forums. My lone accomplishment within GW history was my ability to convince Al to let me convert the forums XenForo, to get us away from antiquated vB3 software that had known exploits. We did that, and within what felt like a couple of months we were given the winding up order from Al. So I guess that makes me responsible for the downfall of our home. Go me? I would linger on the FB group and the Reddit group, but...eh...they're no fun. Five years later I decided enough's enough, started this forum on a whim and now I'm responsible for forcing all of you back into this addiction that is forum life :D.

Now for the "if I can be serious for a minute" section, I guess. There's a part of me that has been present for as long as I can remember, something I started to recognize very early in life, and yet also learned to hide because I was taught just how badly the nail that sticks out gets hammered. I grew up with a father that was among the nastiest, most bigoted people you could imagine. I had a brother who hated my father (half brother, different dads), and therefore hated me because I was his kid and also wasn't a particularly masculine child...so I got a lot of beatings from him. 5 years old, that was when I first heard the f-word as it pertains to people of a certain orientation. Barely learned the basics of the English language and my brother, 24 at the time, introduces that as a means to torment me. He was a delightful person. He got married, had two kids, treated all of them like absolute garbage, they all left him, are living with someone FAR better as a father figure, and my brother decided to mix drugs and alcohol one night in 2019 and killed himself. Meanwhile, because of my own issues, my own social and general anxiety, my dysthymia and yes, a result of trauma from his abuse and my own inner demons, I developed a persistent suicidal ideation, a need to try and end my life. I made several attempts, but it wasn't until just before my brother dying that I finally had enough. I put the razor to my skin, tried to blank my brain and...nothing. I cried. I went into such a state I essentially cried myself catatonic and spent the night staring at the ceiling wondering why I couldn't. I decided the next day to find a therapist. I talked to my primary care, explained that situation and that I needed help finding someone, I also told her a truth I had been keeping in since childhood, something I knew needed dealt with now or it would be the death of me, and she bluntly told me she couldn't help me. So I started calling every therapist I could find, several told me they aren't taking new patients, but many more told me they don't offer services for what I was looking for. 30 tries later, I found him. My therapist. He's amazing, he's an extremely open person, he understands a decent amount of where I'm coming from, and he introduces coping strategies for a lot of different issues. Then we got down to it, for the first time in my life I told someone who I was. What I was. We spent an hour talking about everything. He helped me find a new primary care doctor, as well, and I made an appointment with him.

December 7th of that year, I finally became truthful with myself. I took the first step on a road I didn't want to take, but had to. I told my doctor, went over my therapy sessions and my therapist's recommendations and walked away with two prescriptions and as a brand new person. I came out to a small group of friends online, then a small group of...now former friends in person. That wasn't pleasant. But I finally came out as trans, as me. The long road started. It's had a lot of ups and downs...a lot of very bad downs...but you keep pushing on. We all have struggles, and I won't deny that the current political climate has made things worse from an anxiety standpoint, where it feels like your entire existence is constantly being invalidated by old men in a chamber blabbering on about a subject they know nothing about. I digress, that was the time where I started officially living a double life. Why, you ask? Well, because as liberated as new me had become by finally living to be me, I had quit my job 5 years prior to look after my mother who is suffering from dementia. It's been 7 years now and she is so far gone that it's hard to just keep her from screaming bloody murder at you most days. I don't wish dementia on anyone, not even my worst enemies, I can think of no worse way to spend your final years, scared and feeling alone because you have no idea what's going on. I know people think it's an amazing thing to quit a high paying job to make minimum wage for 26 hours a week looking after your mother as a certified caregiver, which is in reality a 24/7 job, but it isn't anything special on my part, just what anyone would do for their parent. It hurts having to live with a bigoted father and therefore having to live a double life, because I can't afford a place of my own anymore, but I am medically transitioning (and I can't lie, it is getting very difficult to hide certain things from them at this stage, so I can only imagine it's a matter of time before that situation explodes) and present as my real self to select people and to the internet (my sisters both know and are both supportive, my wider family are supportive, I've gained a lot of new friends since coming out, and found out some of my long terms friends are also trans or have come out of trans in recent times, which is amazing!), so there are moments of normalcy in amongst the chaos. So there you go. That's how boring Apollo became even more boring Crystal. As I've said elsewhere, I'm an open book on the trans stuff, you want to know, ask. I can't speak for all of us, I can just speak for me, but I'll answer.

There we go, me mashed down into a few paragraphs that are rambly and stream of thought-ish...whoo?
 

Crystal

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I'm sorry you went through so much crap, but it sounds like you've come out (pardon the pun) of the other side stronger than ever.

Be proud of yourself and remember that you've got your GW family.

And some nitwit called Danny.
That part I am particularly happy with, I didn't think I'd ever see this level of interaction with GW members again, but here we are, and that makes me unbelievably happy :)
 

Crystal

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Thank you for sharing that. I imagine it's going to be a hell of a journey, but I hope it brings you happiness.
It's been a couple of years of ups and downs so far, a lot of things they just don't prepare you for until you're on that road, lol
What was it like to find out about the other trans friends? :D

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It was interesting! Especially those that came out afterwards, I genuinely had no clue with a one or two of them. I did get someone messaging me telling me it was because I came out that they were finally comfortable doing so, as well. That was nice. I sort of became a mentor for her, lol, she's gotten through the early stumbles and is doing very well now!
 
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Ok, ok, fine, I'll follow the trend and do a proper introduction.

So as you've probably learned by this point, my name is Crystal, formerly known as Apollo, I joined GameWinners officially in June of 2001, but I was very much present before that time, lurking and browsing the cheats sections. Number 22057 :D. I had been a part of several forums before GW, but none of them really struck a chord with me as a place I wanted to dedicate a lot of time to until GW. I started interacting within the WWF No Mercy forum and slowly but surely spread to more and more forums and very quickly GW went from a place to talk shop about No Mercy to a forum home. It became special, somewhere I could come and chat with friends I enjoyed talking to. I clung to that hard and worked to become a part of the GW fabric. Eventually I got the chance for a mod vote for Classic Systems, I passed and was added in November 2001. I stayed on as a mod, essentially in the background, until 2005 when my issues with depression went from bad to extreme. I kept a small forum project open so I still had a little connection to forums, but inside I was a mess. Online, offline I was shutting down. It took everything I had to put on the smiling face and be happy around anyone that contacted me for a chat. I went to college, earned a degree, wasn't satisfied, so I earned another. I wrapped myself up in coursework so I didn't have to face reality. I wracked up debt because of it, but managed to get my Masters of Science in Information Technology with a concentration on Systems and Information Security. Sounds impressive, it really isn't.

Not long after I started working for a small business as a Java programmer, porting legacy software to new code, it was loan origination software for banks, and not long after that I was helping develop the newest versions. I made a good living, I enjoyed the workload, I had great benefits, but none of it mattered, I was miserable, depressed, fighting within myself each and every day to keep moving forward. I rejoined GW, even got re-promoted to moderator, and then super moderator somehow. Then admin when Ben left, but for all I put back into GW I still felt lost, worthless, empty. I knew things about myself that needed addressed, but I couldn't be open about them. Anyway, long story short I was a bundle of blah waiting to explode and trying my best to put on a happy face while around the forums. My lone accomplishment within GW history was my ability to convince Al to let me convert the forums XenForo, to get us away from antiquated vB3 software that had known exploits. We did that, and within what felt like a couple of months we were given the winding up order from Al. So I guess that makes me responsible for the downfall of our home. Go me? I would linger on the FB group and the Reddit group, but...eh...they're no fun. Five years later I decided enough's enough, started this forum on a whim and now I'm responsible for forcing all of you back into this addiction that is forum life :D.

Now for the "if I can be serious for a minute" section, I guess. There's a part of me that has been present for as long as I can remember, something I started to recognize very early in life, and yet also learned to hide because I was taught just how badly the nail that sticks out gets hammered. I grew up with a father that was among the nastiest, most bigoted people you could imagine. I had a brother who hated my father (half brother, different dads), and therefore hated me because I was his kid and also wasn't a particularly masculine child...so I got a lot of beatings from him. 5 years old, that was when I first heard the f-word as it pertains to people of a certain orientation. Barely learned the basics of the English language and my brother, 24 at the time, introduces that as a means to torment me. He was a delightful person. He got married, had two kids, treated all of them like absolute garbage, they all left him, are living with someone FAR better as a father figure, and my brother decided to mix drugs and alcohol one night in 2019 and killed himself. Meanwhile, because of my own issues, my own social and general anxiety, my dysthymia and yes, a result of trauma from his abuse and my own inner demons, I developed a persistent suicidal ideation, a need to try and end my life. I made several attempts, but it wasn't until just before my brother dying that I finally had enough. I put the razor to my skin, tried to blank my brain and...nothing. I cried. I went into such a state I essentially cried myself catatonic and spent the night staring at the ceiling wondering why I couldn't. I decided the next day to find a therapist. I talked to my primary care, explained that situation and that I needed help finding someone, I also told her a truth I had been keeping in since childhood, something I knew needed dealt with now or it would be the death of me, and she bluntly told me she couldn't help me. So I started calling every therapist I could find, several told me they aren't taking new patients, but many more told me they don't offer services for what I was looking for. 30 tries later, I found him. My therapist. He's amazing, he's an extremely open person, he understands a decent amount of where I'm coming from, and he introduces coping strategies for a lot of different issues. Then we got down to it, for the first time in my life I told someone who I was. What I was. We spent an hour talking about everything. He helped me find a new primary care doctor, as well, and I made an appointment with him.

December 7th of that year, I finally became truthful with myself. I took the first step on a road I didn't want to take, but had to. I told my doctor, went over my therapy sessions and my therapist's recommendations and walked away with two prescriptions and as a brand new person. I came out to a small group of friends online, then a small group of...now former friends in person. That wasn't pleasant. But I finally came out as trans, as me. The long road started. It's had a lot of ups and downs...a lot of very bad downs...but you keep pushing on. We all have struggles, and I won't deny that the current political climate has made things worse from an anxiety standpoint, where it feels like your entire existence is constantly being invalidated by old men in a chamber blabbering on about a subject they know nothing about. I digress, that was the time where I started officially living a double life. Why, you ask? Well, because as liberated as new me had become by finally living to be me, I had quit my job 5 years prior to look after my mother who is suffering from dementia. It's been 7 years now and she is so far gone that it's hard to just keep her from screaming bloody murder at you most days. I don't wish dementia on anyone, not even my worst enemies, I can think of no worse way to spend your final years, scared and feeling alone because you have no idea what's going on. I know people think it's an amazing thing to quit a high paying job to make minimum wage for 26 hours a week looking after your mother as a certified caregiver, which is in reality a 24/7 job, but it isn't anything special on my part, just what anyone would do for their parent. It hurts having to live with a bigoted father and therefore having to live a double life, because I can't afford a place of my own anymore, but I am medically transitioning (and I can't lie, it is getting very difficult to hide certain things from them at this stage, so I can only imagine it's a matter of time before that situation explodes) and present as my real self to select people and to the internet (my sisters both know and are both supportive, my wider family are supportive, I've gained a lot of new friends since coming out, and found out some of my long terms friends are also trans or have come out of trans in recent times, which is amazing!), so there are moments of normalcy in amongst the chaos. So there you go. That's how boring Apollo became even more boring Crystal. As I've said elsewhere, I'm an open book on the trans stuff, you want to know, ask. I can't speak for all of us, I can just speak for me, but I'll answer.

There we go, me mashed down into a few paragraphs that are rambly and stream of thought-ish...whoo?
Jesus. I'd give you a huge hug right now if I could. I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that.
 

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Jesus. I'd give you a huge hug right now if I could. I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that.
Oh there's plenty more I could add in there, like what my former best friend did when he found out about me, but we'll spare the novel for another time :)

All good now, we all have our struggles and hopefully now it's good times!
 

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I know people think it's an amazing thing to quit a high paying job to make minimum wage for 26 hours a week looking after your mother as a certified caregiver, which is in reality a 24/7 job, but it isn't anything special on my part, just what anyone would do for their parent.
you know, for a fact, as we had talked about it at length, I know better than almost anyone what this was like.

I didn't quit a high paying job, but I had a good future. I'm reasonably intelligent, I was very athletic (not enough anymore lol, wait for your late 30s folks), but I gave up everything yo also become a caregiver. fortunately for a decent chunk of that time, I was being paid as a PCA, and at least where I live, it was a not insignificant amount of money.

but yes, people that haven't done it don't understand just how much 24/7 means in the case of being a caregiver. at an age where most people our age started moving away from fancy ringtones, and muting their ringers and just using vibrate, I had to have my phone on full volume at all times.

middle of trying to play a game? call or text. sleeping? forget it. the only fortunate for me is that while my mom needed a lot of assistance, especially in later years, her mind *mostly* stayed fine. so "mom I'm gonna go in for a shower" usually meant she'd be fine for a little while, it was my one real reprieve.

but like you, I hate when people tell me "it's so noble", "it's amazing you did thst" "caregivers are the best people", it's not noble. and it's not amazing.

my mother needed me, I did what I had to do.

here's the unpleasant part of 24/7 caregivijg and maybe Crystal can understand.

when you are not only living with, but caring for someone 24/7, sometimes you're going yo resent them, you're going to get mad at them. "put two people in a room together long enough they'll either fuck or fight".

I had lots of fights with my mom, and it still bothers me a year later wondering if our fights added to her decline. but even in that, fighting can't be normal.

you get mad at your spouse, or your (healthy) parents, you have a fight. you can walk away and breathe, feel your feelings, be mad for a while. but when you're caregiving, you can't. no matter how mad I was, or how right I was, id walk away for maybe 5 minutes, and then go back in to try and calm her down, forget why I was upset and get back to normal so it didn't upset her more.

it's hard, and it sucks. I was a 24/7 live in nurse that was entirely unqualified to be a nurse. and some days? I still wake up wondering if I'm the reason she died, if I didn't do enough. maybe I was so "comfortable" living at home, not doing anything with my life, that I didn't push to get her more care, more help.

Crystal, I'll be blunt, you know that someday your mom is going to die, I'm going to tell you the same thing I've been told repeatedly, and I don't often believe it, but it is the truth.

you did nothing wrong. you gave up your life to care for someone that needed you, and I know for a fact you did and are doing your absolute best at that.

you're right, it's nothing. shes your mom, mine was my mom, it's what any normal child would do.

but still be proud of yourself. because even though we *know* in our hearts it's what any child would do.

...they wouldn't.
 

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I appreciate it, though I'm not sure I actually deserve better. ❤️
Well that’s where you’re wrong. You deserve significantly better. I’ve only known you on GW, but in that time I’ve only seen you think about others. You are genuinely a good person and well-liked for who you are
 

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you know, for a fact, as we had talked about it at length, I know better than almost anyone what this was like.

I didn't quit a high paying job, but I had a good future. I'm reasonably intelligent, I was very athletic (not enough anymore lol, wait for your late 30s folks), but I gave up everything yo also become a caregiver. fortunately for a decent chunk of that time, I was being paid as a PCA, and at least where I live, it was a not insignificant amount of money.

but yes, people that haven't done it don't understand just how much 24/7 means in the case of being a caregiver. at an age where most people our age started moving away from fancy ringtones, and muting their ringers and just using vibrate, I had to have my phone on full volume at all times.

middle of trying to play a game? call or text. sleeping? forget it. the only fortunate for me is that while my mom needed a lot of assistance, especially in later years, her mind *mostly* stayed fine. so "mom I'm gonna go in for a shower" usually meant she'd be fine for a little while, it was my one real reprieve.

but like you, I hate when people tell me "it's so noble", "it's amazing you did thst" "caregivers are the best people", it's not noble. and it's not amazing.

my mother needed me, I did what I had to do.

here's the unpleasant part of 24/7 caregivijg and maybe Crystal can understand.

when you are not only living with, but caring for someone 24/7, sometimes you're going yo resent them, you're going to get mad at them. "put two people in a room together long enough they'll either fuck or fight".

I had lots of fights with my mom, and it still bothers me a year later wondering if our fights added to her decline. but even in that, fighting can't be normal.

you get mad at your spouse, or your (healthy) parents, you have a fight. you can walk away and breathe, feel your feelings, be mad for a while. but when you're caregiving, you can't. no matter how mad I was, or how right I was, id walk away for maybe 5 minutes, and then go back in to try and calm her down, forget why I was upset and get back to normal so it didn't upset her more.

it's hard, and it sucks. I was a 24/7 live in nurse that was entirely unqualified to be a nurse. and some days? I still wake up wondering if I'm the reason she died, if I didn't do enough. maybe I was so "comfortable" living at home, not doing anything with my life, that I didn't push to get her more care, more help.

Crystal, I'll be blunt, you know that someday your mom is going to die, I'm going to tell you the same thing I've been told repeatedly, and I don't often believe it, but it is the truth.

you did nothing wrong. you gave up your life to care for someone that needed you, and I know for a fact you did and are doing your absolute best at that.

you're right, it's nothing. shes your mom, mine was my mom, it's what any normal child would do.

but still be proud of yourself. because even though we *know* in our hearts it's what any child would do.

...they wouldn't.
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I hear you so much in that. It sucks, it's a horrible thing to go through, but no matter how bad it feels for you, it's ten times worse for them and you just HAVE to deal with it. My mother's so far gone at this point that I view it as having already lost my mother, I'm just doing my best to get through the day most times. It's no fun, at all.
Well that’s where you’re wrong. You deserve significantly better. I’ve only known you on GW, but in that time I’ve only seen you think about others. You are genuinely a good person and well-liked for who you are
No, I'm a pretty terrible person, honestly.
 

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You're right, it's nothing. shes your mom, mine was my mom, it's what any normal child would do.

but still be proud of yourself. because even though we *know* in our hearts it's what any child would do.

...they wouldn't.
Obviously lots of people wouldn't do it because lots of people don't. It's a huge sacrifice, so huge that many people are literally incapable of it. Don't sell yourselves short.

Frankly, as much as I love my parents, if one of them was instead a queer hating bigot that put my mental health and possibly safety at risk, I don't think I'd be able to be near them to care for the other one. It's hard enough in the best of circumstances.

Crystal, I'm so glad you were able to finally be honest about who you are and pursue living your life authentically. I can't even imagine the burden of having to hide your gender identity. All the anti-trans rhetoric is horrible and absurd, but if there's a silver lining in that, I think it's that at least we're starting to have a conversation about how complicated gender really is instead of pretending it's black and white. The backlash is because change is happening and that's (we'll be charitable) hard for some people. Bad news for them is change is happening whether they like it or not. =]

Hopefully you have a better support system than randos on the internet, but if you ever need someone to talk or vent to, feel free to reach out.

Thanks for putting in all the work and initiative to give this community a place to gather again!
 

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I hear you so much in that. It sucks, it's a horrible thing to go through, but no matter how bad it feels for you, it's ten times worse for them and you just HAVE to deal with it. My mother's so far gone at this point that I view it as having already lost my mother, I'm just doing my best to get through the day most times. It's no fun, at all.

No, I'm a pretty terrible person, honestly.

You and @Cole are shining examples of what it means to be selfless in the face of something that hurts you… whether it’s seeing their health decline that hurts you, or the history shared between you and your parents.

I commend the both of you, and raise the question to myself what I would do in either of your shoes… and although I know the answer, I know it wouldn’t be easy for a number of reasons, but… this isn’t about what I or anyone else would theoretically do. This is about what Cole DID and what you’re DOING. Anyone can speculate, but doers do.
 

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Obviously lots of people wouldn't do it because lots of people don't. It's a huge sacrifice, so huge that many people are literally incapable of it. Don't sell yourselves short.
It's not something I'd ever pat myself on the back for, that's for sure.
Frankly, as much as I love my parents, if one of them was instead a queer hating bigot that put my mental health and possibly safety at risk, I don't think I'd be able to be near them to care for the other one. It's hard enough in the best of circumstances.
Yeah, it's not been fun, but I'll do what I have to for my mother.
Crystal, I'm so glad you were able to finally be honest about who you are and pursue living your life authentically. I can't even imagine the burden of having to hide your gender identity. All the anti-trans rhetoric is horrible and absurd, but if there's a silver lining in that, I think it's that at least we're starting to have a conversation about how complicated gender really is instead of pretending it's black and white. The backlash is because change is happening and that's (we'll be charitable) hard for some people. Bad news for them is change is happening whether they like it or not. =]
I appreciate that, and yeah, the rhetoric is scary, but apparently necessary to get to where we need to be.
Hopefully you have a better support system than randos on the internet, but if you ever need someone to talk or vent to, feel free to reach out.
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Thanks for putting in all the work and initiative to give this community a place to gather again!
I would do that again and again and again, best thing that's happened in years!
 

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You and @Cole are shining examples of what it means to be selfless in the face of something that hurts you… whether it’s seeing their health decline that hurts you, or the history shared between you and your parents.

I commend the both of you, and raise the question to myself what I would do in either of your shoes… and although I know the answer, I know it wouldn’t be easy for a number of reasons, but… this isn’t about what I or anyone else would theoretically do. This is about what Cole DID and what you’re DOING. Anyone can speculate, but doers do.
It sure sounds nice, but yeah, it's not a fun job, not something I would want anyone to take on. But it is something most of us would do if faced wit hit.
 

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yeah, I'm right there with Crystal. regardless of how many wouldn't, or what it means it's not fun, it's not noble, it just... is.

I love and appreciate every one of you saying what you think of it, and I don't want to diminish anyone's kind words.

but I never considered what I did special. just "right".
 

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yeah, I'm right there with Crystal. regardless of how many wouldn't, or what it means it's not fun, it's not noble, it just... is.

I love and appreciate every one of you saying what you think of it, and I don't want to diminish anyone's kind words.

but I never considered what I did special. just "right".
Agreed. We did/are doing it, that's all.
 

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Thank you so much for sharing, I can't imagine the hardships you've gone through. I hope you'll get to a point in life where you can be happy and content with who you are. And from what you wrote it sounds like you are on the rught path! And remember that your GW family will always be here for you!
 

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Thank you so much for sharing, I can't imagine the hardships you've gone through. I hope you'll get to a point in life where you can be happy and content with who you are. And from what you wrote it sounds like you are on the rught path! And remember that your GW family will always be here for you!
Yeah, it's that sense of familiarity, that sense of friendship I truly missed about GW. I'm so happy we get a chance to have a small slice of that once again :)
 

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Yeah, it's that sense of familiarity, that sense of friendship I truly missed about GW. I'm so happy we get a chance to have a small slice of that once again :)
I wanted to echo what others have said. We’re an extended family here at GW, and we’ll do what we can to help and support you. We won’t judge you for who are, only for stupid things you may do :hugs :tease2
 

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I wanted to echo what others have said. We’re an extended family here at GW, and we’ll do what we can to help and support you. We won’t judge you for who are, only for stupid things you may do :hugs :tease2
I've got plenty of stupid in me :D

I love you all, you're incredible people and it's amazing to have the chance to reconnect and engage like this again ❤️
 
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