"Wipe yourself off, man. You dead."

[Zell 17]

Alright now that the dead are forever dead, who wants to guess evils

 

[shortkut]

Alright now that the dead are forever dead, who wants to guess evils

local, vash, kelly

 

[Zell 17]

local, vash, kelly

One is a wolf, one is a townie, one is a solo killer

 

[canadaguy]

Man town really wanted Tommy dead

 

[shortkut]

local, vash, kelly

and maybe jawneh. as a wolf, he would know who is innocent so he can give real reads

 

[shortkut]

One is a wolf, one is a townie, one is a solo killer

i really hope vash is the solo

 

[shortkut]

One is a wolf, one is a townie, one is a solo killer

 

[dimmerwit]

I'll guess the wolves!

 

[dimmerwit]

Also, I'll let you guess, but:

Also, *I* cannot be the only person to see the wolves have to have a seer, right? Right?!

Nope!

 

[shortkut]

why do the wolves have a seer? They made one random kill that had a cascade effect and then i had to keep bringing attention to being a witch so i was a big threat to them. I could kill one of them and stop one of their kills. You don't need a seer to make those kills happen

 

[Fool's Requiem]

What the fuck is the SK? Still no kills from them. Arsonist? Serial Killer just stacking kills? If they don't lynch the SK, I think they have a very good chance at winning.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Town is definitely not winning after that...

 

[dimmerwit]

I'd also like to retract my previous complaints about the composition of the Wolf team.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'd also like to retract my previous complaints about the composition of the Wolf team.

you mean there aren't three Alphas?!

 

[canadaguy]

you mean there aren't three Alphas?!

 

[Jon]

why do the wolves have a seer? They made one random kill that had a cascade effect and then i had to keep bringing attention to being a witch so i was a big threat to them. I could kill one of them and stop one of their kills. You don't need a seer to make those kills happen

They hit strong roles with each of their first two kills, which is usually a strong indicator they have a seer of some sort to help identify the threatening roles to them. The fact that I had Quagmire as the ritualist coupled was an inadvertent 3-for-1. But it doesn't stop the fact they hit a second strong role. And targeting CG night 1 (and subsequently swapped to the dead body) was them targeting the detective, not CG.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I did prove myself...

I went for @Tommy Boy because he was posting like he didn't fear the wolves killing him overnight, but i guess if he had his trap on himself, he wouldn't fear it

Except the wolves didn’t fucking kill me. You did and your incessant bloodlust for me killed me. You, the villager, killed me. Anyone else, man. Nope. Had to be me right?

 

[Jon]

Except the wolves didn’t fucking kill me. You did and your incessant bloodlust for me killed me. You, the villager, killed me. Anyone else, man. Nope. Had to be me right?

At least I didn't couple you!

 

[Jon]

lol, I wanted to leave a ghost on Jawneh's layout for his gaping hole comment... but sadly I think others may buy into it for different reasons (though I don't know any more than them), so I removed it. So @Jawneh just know your gaping hole comment made me giggle.

 

[Zell 17]

I wonder how much of this uncertainty has been planned wolf obfuscation vs....generally bumbling around.

Regardless it's been pretty effective

 

[Jon]

I wonder how much of this uncertainty has been planned wolf obfuscation vs....generally bumbling around.

Regardless it's been pretty effective

Says the person that knows the answer to that.

Regardless of planned or not, this is what the wolves want and need to win anyway.

Also, i'm sad Alu didn't pass on my message

 

[Quagmire]

Man town really wanted Tommy dead

He hangs out with @Timmy Boy so I get it

 

[Quagmire]

What the fuck is the SK? Still no kills from them. Arsonist? Serial Killer just stacking kills? If they don't lynch the SK, I think they have a very good chance at winning.

Or could be Illusionist

 

[dimmerwit]

I for one am hoping for even more wolf obfuscation.

 

[Zell 17]

I for one am hoping for even more wolf obfuscation.

I'm not sure any of it is intentional. but it's working well, because Alu and Vash are asking all of the right questions.

 

[shortkut]

Except the wolves didn’t fucking kill me. You did and your incessant bloodlust for me killed me. You, the villager, killed me. Anyone else, man. Nope. Had to be me right?

I thought you were SK, not blood lust. I was right that you didn’t fear being killed by the wolves at night but wrong about the reason why

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Village in these last few games:

Sourced from the original location.

 

[Quagmire]

Village in these last few games:

Sourced from the original location.

Pretty much every game I have played

 

[dimmerwit]

If Vash is telling the truth, then how did the vote fail?

(big if)

 

[shortkut]

Someone skipped and forgot to vote?
I said I would vote local so enough people jumped on to my vote?

 

[dimmerwit]

Must be. You would all need to vote the same way to tie the wolf vote unless someone done goofed.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Zell 17 I don't see a rule stipulating this, can you confirm that we can't both have a Cupid and an Instigator?

 

[canadaguy]

@Zell 17 I don't see a rule stipulating this, can you confirm that we can't both have a Cupid and an Instigator?

I think in the game thread he mentioned it used to be stated specifically.

The key point was that they cannot be in the same game, because someone cannot be paired by both a Cupid and Instigator at the same time

 

[Zell 17]

I think in the game thread he mentioned it used to be stated specifically.

The key point was that they cannot be in the same game, because someone cannot be paired by both a Cupid and Instigator at the same time

Yup

 

[Jon]

Thanks @Ancle Suck !!!!

 

[dimmerwit]

Well, that's a play.

 

[Jon]

It's an anti-climactic one

 

[Jon]

I doubt you guys had two Nightmare wolves. You had 2 shadow and I would assume a seer. I'm not sure if Kelly understands that by giving the SK the plan they will nightmare him, lynching the nightmare wolf (I assume not Kelly since he appears to be trying to get the lynch on him), then the SK has a path to winning...

Kelly has done this in the past (when he was outted as the Don in Vash's mafia game comes to mind) where he tries to convince people of a certain outcome. I'm not a huge fan.

 

[dimmerwit]

We don't have a seer.

If you really want to know, we had a nightmare wolf and three shadow wolves.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

There's a YouTuber/Streamer who plays Amogus named Speedy who tries to gain support from other killers to avoid getting lynched. Something along the lines of "If I can benefit in your game in any way, vote skip (no vote)." Whether or not it works is debatable because many of those games are just players fucking around anyway.

It did work here once, as @shortkut can tell you, but there's no guarantee it'll work again. The SK has no reason to reveal themselves as they still have a solid chance to win and lynching a wolf helps their game.

 

[Jon]

We don't have a seer.

If you really want to know, we had a nightmare wolf and three shadow wolves.

Gotcha, so my point is still accurate though. Just hunching here, it feels to me like Kelly is trying to protect Ben, who i would assume at this point is the nightmare wolf. Kelly probably used his shadow and you used yours, so he's trying to protect the wolf powers.

I think there is a VERY good chance Vash is evil, so Benzine asking how many extra votes he has tells me the town still doesn't know who the last townie is and Kelly may have prematurely went off.

That or he's found a wound to cauterize and is playing a 1000 IQ move, because he missed a tag and it's entirely plausible (or likely knowing him) that was purposeful to hide the last wolf.

Either way, I've got the popcorn bucket now.

 

[Tommy Boy]

We don't have a seer.

If you really want to know, we had a nightmare wolf and three shadow wolves.

Can you tell me who the wolves are either with a spoiler tag, or via DM? I just wanna know at this point lol

 

[Jon]

@Ancle Suck again showing why I picked him lol

 

[Quagmire]

We don't have a seer.

If you really want to know, we had a nightmare wolf and three shadow wolves.

Damn, 3 is a crazy number

 

[dimmerwit]

Can you tell me who the wolves are either with a spoiler tag, or via DM? I just wanna know at this point lol

Spoiler: Wolves

Ben is the Nightmare Wolf. Smacktard and Jawneh are the living Shadow Wolves, along with myself as the third Shadow.

 

[canadaguy]

I can never keep track of these end game voting potential situations.

I'm always just like, gee seems a lot of wolves left.

 

[Quagmire]

I can never keep track of these end game voting potential situations.

I'm always just like, gee seems a lot of wolves left.

This is why I prefer to die early, last time I fucked up the final vote

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Zell 17 permission to make the following joke in the live chat:

 

[Zell 17]

Nah I don't think people are fond of ghost posts. The funny thing is, if you had no dead land access I'd be all for it.

 

[Jon]

Spoiler: Wolves

Ben is the Nightmare Wolf. Smacktard and Jawneh are the living Shadow Wolves, along with myself as the third Shadow.

So I was right.

Spoiler

Which means Vash or Local is the solo.