Movies Wicked

[Quagmire]

We finally saw this last weekend and I really enjoyed it.

I have never seen the musical, it's been on my list, but we havent been able to make it work when it has been in time.

I am actually not even a fan of Wizard of Oz, but for what ever reason this has me interested in the lore and how it all ties together. Probably because even though Im not a huge fan of Wizard of Oz, I've seen it plenty and it's a cultural icon.

Despite being a "long" movie, it went by really fast and damn those are some good and catchy tunes. I now understand the love for the musical

I did find it weird, a world where there are talking animals that can do things humans can, that someone with green skin would be such an issue, but I guess she is one of a kind and there isnt an entire group of green people where it could be normalized

Also Jeff Goldblum is the perfect Wizard

 

[Tommy Boy]

I'm already not a fan of musicals, but I have seen Wicked on Broadway before. Because of that, I didn't really feel like I needed the theater experience so we planned on waiting until it was streaming. Though concerned about Ariana Grande's appearance, we were willing to look past whatever issues she has currently and were in it for her voice.

However, when I read about all the drama that came with Cynthia Erivo, we decided against watching it. Good to hear it wasn't a flop, but ultimately decided it wasn't for us.

 

[Quagmire]

I'm already not a fan of musicals, but I have seen Wicked on Broadway before. Because of that, I didn't really feel like I needed the theater experience so we planned on waiting until it was streaming. Though concerned about Ariana Grande's appearance, we were willing to look past whatever issues she has currently and were in it for her voice.

I do like musicals when done well, not everything needs to be a musical

They added scenes and interactions that werent in the play (given the extra run length)

However, when I read about all the drama that came with Cynthia Erivo, we decided against watching it. Good to hear it wasn't a flop, but ultimately decided it wasn't for us.

What drama?

 

[Tommy Boy]

What drama?

A TikTok artist tried to make the new movie poster look like the old Broadway poster. In the stylized Broadway poster, the brim of the hat covers the eyes and her lips are red. So the artist used shadow to cover the actress's eyes and tint her lips red. That's it. There were many more edits to Grande to get her to match. But for Erivo, her eyes were put in shadow and she got lipstick tint.

She had an absolute meltdown about how it erased and degraded her as a person and was the most offensive, horrific thing she had ever seen or experienced... Even compared to many private messages about whether her genitals were green... It was an absolutely inappropriate and disproportionate reaction to, literally, nothing offensive at all except a long time fan excited to see the movie and advertising it for free.

TL;DR: huge ego celebrity invents something to create a public victim spectacle over while simultaneously minimizing actual offensive instances of erasure and degradation. Classic Hollywood manufactured moral authority nonsense.

Cynthia Erivo’s ‘Wicked’ Poster Controversy, Explained

A ‘Wicked’ movie poster was edited by a fan to resemble the original Broadway musical image, which offended star Cynthia Erivo and sparked memes and discourse.

www.forbes.com

 

[Quagmire]

A TikTok artist tried to make the new movie poster look like the old Broadway poster. In the stylized Broadway poster, the brim of the hat covers the eyes and her lips are red. So the artist used shadow to cover the actress's eyes and tint her lips red. That's it. There were many more edits to Grande to get her to match. But for Erivo, her eyes were put in shadow and she got lipstick tint.

She had an absolute meltdown about how it erased and degraded her as a person and was the most offensive, horrific thing she had ever seen or experienced... Even compared to many private messages about whether her genitals were green... It was an absolutely inappropriate and disproportionate reaction to, literally, nothing offensive at all except a long time fan excited to see the movie and advertising it for free.

TL;DR: huge ego celebrity invents something to create a public victim spectacle over while simultaneously minimizing actual offensive instances of erasure and degradation. Classic Hollywood manufactured moral authority nonsense.

Cynthia Erivo’s ‘Wicked’ Poster Controversy, Explained

A ‘Wicked’ movie poster was edited by a fan to resemble the original Broadway musical image, which offended star Cynthia Erivo and sparked memes and discourse.

www.forbes.com

Oh well still worth seeing IMO, Im usually pretty good at separating artist from the art

 

[Smacktard]

I actually quite liked the movie, but the final 1/3 really drags on. When Elphaba is trying to escape from the tower -- that whole sequence was like 30 minutes or more, and three or four songs. Just sing "toodle-oo" and skededdadle so we can get out of the movie theatre, already

The controversy was pretty lulzy but you gotta separate the artist from the art. Ariana Grande is not exactly free from controversy, either. Which nationality is she LARPing as this week?

 

[Quagmire]

I actually quite liked the movie, but the final 1/3 really drags on. When Elphaba is trying to escape from the tower -- that whole sequence was like 30 minutes or more, and three or four songs. Just sing "toodle-oo" and skededdadle so we can get out of the movie theatre, already

Yeah I guess if I had a complaint that last little part did feel like it dragged a tad, but overall I was still impressed with how fast the movie felt as a whole

The controversy was pretty lulzy but you gotta separate the artist from the art. Ariana Grande is not exactly free from controversy, either. Which nationality is she LARPing as this week?

I have no clue what her controversies are either. I just dont really follow too much celebrity issues. I do know the issues coming out with Brad Pitt and Neil Gaiman, but for the most part if it isnt a celebrity I am familiar with it doesnt register. I know Ariana, but I dont know any of her music or anything she has done, all I think of when I hear of her is this scene from Peacemaker

 

[Tommy Boy]

Which nationality is she LARPing as this week?

lmao