Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 1

[VashTheStampede]

And who would you freaking murder right now?

Obviously there's still a lot of time left in the day but my two suspects are someone you are claiming to clear (though I guess they could be a SK) and Auntie Derp.

 

[TD]

That's between me and the Librarian

 

[Jon]

Obviously there's still a lot of time left in the day but my two suspects are someone you are claiming to clear (though I guess they could be a SK) and Auntie Derp.

 

[TD]

Obviously there's still a lot of time left in the day but my two suspects are someone you are claiming to clear (though I guess they could be a SK) and Auntie Derp.

I wish we didn't have the same feels on Auntie Derp...

SK would make sense as blue.. so would the non-kill solo.

I guess with 6 anti-town players (maybe more if Cupid or Instigator exist) and 9 town players, our odds are decent.

 

[Kat]

It'd be hilarious if you were the librarian.

It's kind of hard to describe what the town did in your game to be honest. There was role claiming in your game but the town just wouldn't work together and imploded. We avoid that.

Haha! No, I meant what is our usual strategy?

Dumb question, who is auntie derp?

 

[shortkut]

I guess with 6 anti-town players (maybe more if Cupid or Instigator exist) and 9 town players, our odds are decent.

Did Zell say in the opening post that they are not in the game?

Edit: oh at the same time

 

[TD]

It'd be hilarious if you were the librarian.

I would be the most useless Librarian ever. But my role is already out there.

Haha! No, I meant what is our usual strategy?

Dumb question, who is auntie derp?

I guess our usual strategy is something like the town rallying around the info provided by one or two people (tends to be a Seer-like), talking things out, claiming roles... and not being so suicidal or kamikaze.

lol - Auntie Derp is Raine.

Did Zell say in the opening post that they are not in the game?

Edit: oh at the same time

Did you just go check yourself?

Guys someone might need to check on kut.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Like Benzine wanting to water the alter boys?

We will not subject the Altar Boys to ANY of this madman's water. They are loyal and good.

 

[Tommy Boy]

What's the reason anybody's voting for Benzine?

Okay, in all seriousness, I was just being silly because he was pretty careless in accusing me last game only to die on the first day. I wouldn't have voted for him so hard if I didn't believe he was evil based on his completely incorrect seer claim. But in the end, he was just being silly stirring the pot, had to use his day action before the lynch happened - so splashing someone (you) was necessary at that point, rather than have the ability be wasted. So, for this game, I lobbed my vote on him but plan on changing it if anything comes up. It's always kind of tough on day 1 to lynch someone, especially with a Fool possibly present. I think day 1 is better spent trying to pick up on people's role hints, since a lynch is risky.

I will also remind you that for someone who usually hardcore pushes role claiming down our throats, Kelly has been awfully mum this game.

I have a feeling this is just time zone related and he's going to Leeroy Jenkins this place once he wakes up with a bunch of theories or something.

 

[Jon]

I have a feeling this is just time zone related and he's going to Leeroy Jenkins this place once he wakes up with a bunch of theories or something.

Maybe, but he's posted 15 times, and not once did he even hint at people should be role claiming.

Last game he wasn't a wolf in, he was essentially charging people who wouldn't role claim as wolves within his first post.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Sometimes people change it up

 

[shortkut]

I would be the most useless Librarian ever. But my role is already out there.

I guess our usual strategy is something like the town rallying around the info provided by one or two people (tends to be a Seer-like), talking things out, claiming roles... and not being so suicidal or kamikaze.

lol - Auntie Derp is Raine.

Did you just go check yourself?

Guys someone might need to check on kut.

I’m a delayed reader

 

[Jon]

Sometimes people change it up

You say this and yet when that's what I try to do, you're suspicious of me.

 

[Jon]

Sometimes people change it up

I’m a delayed reader

And some people never change.

 

[VashTheStampede]

You say this and yet when that's what I try to do, you're suspicious of me.

When did this happen?

 

[Kat]

Maybe, but he's posted 15 times, and not once did he even hint at people should be role claiming.

Last game he wasn't a wolf in, he was essentially charging people who wouldn't role claim as wolves within his first post.

Yeah, but we can't use that strategy this game without having people state their roles outright. It's tricky because any information we have, the wolves also have.

I guess our usual strategy is something like the town rallying around the info provided by one or two people (tends to be a Seer-like), talking things out, claiming roles... and not being so suicidal or kamikaze.

We have no way to know if seer information is reliable, even if we believe the person is reporting honestly. There are possible wolf roles that could make it misleading. Hmm.

The hidden roles does make things interesting.

 

[Jon]

When did this happen?

Interpretation of one of your statements. I could be wrong. But I'm guessing.

 

[Jon]

Yeah, but we can't use that strategy this game without having people state their roles outright. It's tricky because any information we have, the wolves also have.

That's fine. I just find it odd that the people usually pushing the narrative the hardest are the ones most silent on it now.

 

[shortkut]

And some people never change.

I’m at work and I was skimming

 

[Jon]

I’m at work and I was skimming

You misunderstand. I don't want you to change. Ever. You make these games fun.

 

[shortkut]

You misunderstand. I don't want you to change. Ever. You make these games fun.

I love this guy. Alright, you’ve convinced me. @Jon for MVP of @Kat ’s game

 

[Jon]

I love this guy. Alright, you’ve convinced me. @Jon for MVP of @Kat ’s game

I love you too, but I there is no MVPs in that game, so I wasn't vying for anything.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I love you too, but I there is no MVPs in that game, so I wasn't vying for anything.

Incorrect. MVP is Tubby for convincing people to not vote him off despite not posting once.

 

[Kat]

Incorrect. MVP is Tubby for convincing people to not vote him off despite not posting once.

He even got someone to protect him from an attack!

 

[Jon]

Incorrect. MVP is Tubby for convincing people to not vote him off despite not posting once.

Tubby is always an MVP.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I vote Tubby

 

[finlandguy]

Okay. I'll do something different. I'm dropping a hint to my role:

In a niche scenario I can work as an anti- trickster/confusion person. But I can also just do my thing, but that's the A+++ gold star actionable thing I can do.

Now I want to see if people can do enough game theory to figure that out.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Okay. I'll do something different. I'm dropping a hint to my role:

In a niche scenario I can work as an anti- trickster/confusion person. But I can also just do my thing, but that's the A+++ gold star actionable thing I can do.

Now I want to see if people can do enough game theory to figure that out.

Are you claiming to be Benzine?

 

[finlandguy]

Are you claiming to be Benzine?

No, I voted for Benzine.

 

[TD]

Last game he wasn't a wolf in, he was essentially charging people who wouldn't role claim as wolves within his first post.

Sometimes people change it up

That's fine. I just find it odd that the people usually pushing the narrative the hardest are the ones most silent on it now.

I'll just say and it may be alluding to what Vash said - going from leading the town to not isn't an indicator of guilt.

As someone who often ends up in the position (and ends up dead for it) and I'm sure others (like Vash) will attest - it's fucking exhausting to try to rally everyone especially without knowing for sure who to trust.

You say this and yet when that's what I try to do, you're suspicious of me.

Strategy talk: there's differences between suspicion and fishing. No one suspects you enough yet to even vote you.

We have no way to know if seer information is reliable, even if we believe the person is reporting honestly. There are possible wolf roles that could make it misleading. Hmm.

The hidden roles does make things interesting.

Yeah 4 random wolves is such a wildcard. The wolves could be stacked for all we know. I "joked" earlier about 0-4 Berserkers but it's technically possible.

 

[TD]

Speaking of suspicions - I've tossed my vote on Raine for now but it's not based on much.

Just a very strange nagging feeling combined with the almost 50/50 odds of being bad.

 

[shortkut]

No, I voted for Benzine.

There can’t be two

 

[Raine]

Obviously there's still a lot of time left in the day but my two suspects are someone you are claiming to clear (though I guess they could be a SK) and Auntie Derp.

I wish we didn't have the same feels on Auntie Derp...

SK would make sense as blue.. so would the non-kill solo.

I guess with 6 anti-town players (maybe more if Cupid or Instigator exist) and 9 town players, our odds are decent.

I'LL FUCKING DO IT AGAIN when i have a role that can kill

...Wait, blue? Did somebody check me? I haven't read a goddamn thing and it's already 6:30.

Announcing a blue read on Day 1 would be a strange choice.

 

[Kat]

Announcing a blue read on Day 1 would be a strange choice.

I agree. I also feel like TD is fishing. That could be because he's a townie trying to flush out an evil, or he could be looking for somebody we'll bandwagon on.

 

[TD]

I'LL FUCKING DO IT AGAIN when i have a role that can kill

Are you threatening to kill me!?

...Wait, blue? Did somebody check me? I haven't read a goddamn thing and it's already 6:30.

Announcing a blue read on Day 1 would be a strange choice.

No. You were not checked and I'm not convinced you would be blue.

I agree. Typically announcing a blue read on Day 1 is a strange choice.

unless that person hasn't lived to see Day 2 in three straight games and suspects it's possibly going to happen again.

 

[TD]

I agree. I also feel like TD is fishing. That could be because he's a townie trying to flush out an evil, or he could be looking for somebody we'll bandwagon on.

It's safe to assume I'll be out here fishing in every single game regardless of my role.

However, if this part was fishing I'd be doing a double red read as it'd generate more talk and more to read.

 

[GwJumpman]

Unless you anticipated this conversation and mixed it up to throw us off, of course.

It's safe to assume I'll be out here fishing in every single game regardless of my role.

However, if this part was fishing I'd be doing a double red read as it'd generate more talk and more to read.

 

[Raine]

Are you threatening to kill me!?

I would probably never do that!

Intentionally.

On a Tuesday.

No. You were not checked and I'm not convinced you would be blue.

Okay! Then off to read, maybe.


I also don't have either of those abilities, sadly.

 

[finlandguy]

There can’t be two

So vote for Benzine

 

[TD]

Unless you anticipated this conversation and mixed it up to throw us off, of course.

...I mean yeah I could tell you this was how today was going to go.

Day 1 is going as it always does - nothing has happened and it'll end in a no lynch stalemate (which might be okay). I vanished for 6 hours and all that happened was a bandwagon on Benzine that I can't even tell when it started or who jumped in when.

 

[TD]

I would probably never do that!

Intentionally.

On a Tuesday.

Well I guess it's just super convenient for you that the next night phase falls on a Wednesday huh.

Let's recap our last few games together:

2 games ago: I was the Illusionist that you resurrected into a no win scenario and we stayed up until 3am talking in the dead thread. Not sure if I love you or hate you for that one.

1 game ago: You jailed me after I hinted I was Tough Guy, the wolves use Berserk to get to me anyhow and you get yourself killed in the progress.

This game: You kill me on a Wednesday? It feels like the natural progression of our journey.

 

[TD]

 

[shortkut]

So vote for Benzine

I’m sorry but my statement also applies to people who are not reading every post carefully. I cannot sit back and abide @Local Hero not reading

 

[TD]

@Dean
You're quiet. Like not a post quiet. Is it because you're following the new optimum strategy of doing nothing?

 

[Raine]

For whatever it's worth, as of like 12:20 eastern or so, it was:

Benzine: Tommy Boy, Jawneh, Raposuh, Local Hero
No Vote: A Subcontrabass Sax, Fool's Requiem, VashTheStampede, Zell 17 (lol), Kat, Jon, GwJumpman

Naturally with order not meaning anything. I'm being super cereal when I say this is harshin' my mojo.

This game: You kill me on a Wednesday? It feels like the natural progression of our journey.

No see it's funny because I started by having it as Wednesday, but then wanted to reference movie Bison to screw with you. But you did that yourself anyway so mission accomplished!

 

[VashTheStampede]

Jeez Dean, quit posting so much

 

[VashTheStampede]

@Dean
You're quiet. Like not a post quiet. Is it because you're following the new optimum strategy of doing nothing?

Ok we're too sympatico this time

 

[TD]

No see it's funny because I started by having it as Wednesday, but then wanted to reference movie Bison to screw with you. But you did that yourself anyway so mission accomplished!

Well fuck - get out of my head.

Ok we're too sympatico this time

You're gonna let them know we've been cupided.

We are too aligned right now and it feels weird.

 

[TD]

but then wanted to reference movie Bison to screw with you

Wait wait wait.

How do you know this movie?

 

[shortkut]

Well fuck - get out of my head.

You're gonna let them know we've been cupided.

We are too aligned right now and it feels weird.

If you’ve been cupided, are you both town or split?