Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 1

[A Maybe Baker]

Yeah, protect me instead, from Benzine killing me.

Benzine's last attempt at killing someone killed himself instead. You might not need to worry.

 

[VashTheStampede]

so many things can be justified by "wouldn't be a problem if people _______"

Literally every problem lol

 

[Zell 17]

Skips (14 needed):

Benzine

 

[finlandguy]

Only three more votes needed to lynch Benzine.

 

[GwJumpman]

What's the reason anybody's voting for Benzine?

 

[shortkut]

I've never installed Fortnite

Same

 

[Benzine]

What's the reason anybody's voting for Benzine?

Fear.

 

[Jon]

What's the reason anybody's voting for Benzine?

There is seldom a method to people's madness this early in the game.

They're like monkeys throwing their shit at a wall to see what sticks.

 

[finlandguy]

What's the reason anybody's voting for Benzine?

so many things can be justified by "wouldn't be a problem if people just voted Benzine"

 

[Benzine]

so many things can be justified by "wouldn't be a problem if people just voted Benzine"

This is true, if people did vote for me, there'd be less problems.

Different problems, but also less.

Not in this wolf game of course, it's a horrible idea to vote for me.

 

[finlandguy]

This is true, if people did vote for me, there'd be less problems.

Different problems, but also less.

Not in this wolf game of course, it's a horrible idea to vote for me.

Benzine for local government head honcho.

 

[Zell 17]

There is seldom a method to people's madness this early in the game.

They're like monkeys throwing their shit at a wall to see what sticks.

...early?

 

[TD]

Not even 3 pages happened!?

Not sure if I should be happy or disappointed...

Time to go find out.

 

[Jon]

...early?

 

[TD]

Okay exact same shit as when I left.

Enough of that, let's stir shit up and catch a wolf.

Also, I still hate polls cause it's hard to figure out when this whole Benzine thing came to be.

I voted for Benzine cuz he keeps trying to kill me.

This is exactly what a Headhunter would do.

OR if the Flower Child doesn't do that thing

Is this a sequel or you just memeing?

So what's our strategy to find us some wolves?

Same strategy as always.

Except the game you hosted.

Let's not do that.

Now someone quote me and accuse me. Lets keep this going.

Alu is clearly a wolf guys.

Maybe you should kill him based on nothing again.

Sounds like there's good odds there's a wolf hiding in that group

Technically we could take any random group of 4 and have favourable odds.

...Also I'm afraid of a potential Fool lynch. Do we have any way to check RVs?

A Fool lynch is a problem.

Especially since there's roughly a 67% chance of a Fool or Headhunter existing (another one we should watch for).

Just process of elimination and see who's playing stupid.

We could just say fuck it and risk it.

Without voting history I'm, like, completely useless. And I was #1 for good measure.

How many of you lazy fucks pinged me last night?

Lazy fucks yet you're still alive.

HMMM why is that #1? Did you order the hit on #2?

For those of you eying my last post, as promised, I've already HEAVILY alluded to my role multiple times. If you think I'm a wolf it's your funeral.

Last game you stated you are against role claiming and don't like it.

Yet here you are calling lots of attention to an alleged role claim?

HMMM.

Also, don't protect me!

Nobody should be directing our protectors with 4 random wolves. Let them do their thing, we can have 0-4 Berserkers.

 

[Benzine]

Lol. Every time someone tells us not to tell people to do something, they're a wolf.

Do not protect me.

 

[TD]

Lol. Every time someone tells us not to tell people to do something, they're a wolf.

Do not protect me.

The last time people were out here posturing protections on Day 1 THEY were a wolf and nobody batted an eye that the wolf I accused that was protecting people was protecting between 12-18.. in a game with 16.

Guess what - that ended with a successful Berserk.

 

[Jon]

Last game you stated you are against role claiming and don't like it.

Semantic misunderstanding. I said I am against role CLAIMING. I've never been against hinting. And I said in the sign up I would do that in this game since it's always pushed relentlessly.

So I did what I promised. Hinted early on and pretty obviously. I did precisely what I said I would without breaking my personal claiming rule.

Now, you don't have to like it, but I already know my night action and just hope I get some help over night. That said, I find it odd how when I finally hint at a role early, no one else seems to be (except you) and I'm being called out for it. >.>

But I'd like to discuss strategy with you. Good or lucky, your senses are usually accurate. So, I'm personally choosing to give you more deference than others.

EDITS in italics.

 

[Benzine]

There's a pretty big difference between me saying don't protect me and people outing their roles and actions.

All bad explanations are wolves trying to muddy the waters.

 

[shortkut]

Is this a sequel or you just memeing?

Vash is all about love man

 

[shortkut]

Especially since there's roughly a 67% chance of a Fool or Headhunter existing (another one we should watch for).

We cannot discuss odds without @Cole and @Ryan! here

 

[Zell 17]

We cannot discuss odds without @Cole and @Ryan! here

I'm just itching for someone to ask the odds of something happening

 

[shortkut]

I'm just itching for someone to ask the odds of something happening

What are the odds of the spirit seer checking two Erics on the same night?

 

[Jon]

I'm just itching for someone to ask the odds of something happening

What are the odds @Cole ever plays with us again?

 

[shortkut]

What are the odds @Cole ever plays with us again?

He might play a @VashTheStampede mafia game if it ever reaches its final form, but I don’t love those odds

 

[Zell 17]

What are the odds @Cole ever plays with us again?

He'll play more once the evils start winning more

 

[Jon]

He might play a @VashTheStampede mafia game if it ever reaches its final form, but I don’t love those odds

You heard it @VashTheStampede. Your game is next. Get on it.

 

[Zell 17]

What are the odds of the spirit seer checking two Erics on the same night?

I thought you were eriks

 

[VashTheStampede]

That said, I find it odd how when I finally hint at a role early, no one else seems to be

Wouldst thou be surprised to know that a few others have seemingly hinted and you missed it?

 

[shortkut]

He'll play more once the evils start winning more

See, everyone I was useful last game. You’re welcome you ungrateful bastards

 

[shortkut]

I thought you were eriks

I am. You’re decent at math. The odds were 0% this game

 

[Jon]

Wouldst thou be surprised to know that a few others have seemingly hinted and you missed it?

Not at all. I assume others have and I haven't seen it.

I don't know roles well enough to pick random words out as allusions.

 

[shortkut]

Semantic misunderstanding. I said I am against role CLAIMING. I've never been against hinting. And I said in the sign up I would do that in this game since it's always pushed relentlessly.

So I did what I promised. Hinted early on and pretty obviously. I did precisely what I said I would without breaking my personal claiming rule.

Now, you don't have to like it, but I already know my night action and just hope I get some help over night. That said, I find it odd how when I finally hint at a role early, no one else seems to be (except you) and I'm being called out for it. >.>

But I'd like to discuss strategy with you. Good or lucky, your senses are usually accurate. So, I'm personally choosing to give you more deference than others.

EDITS in italics.

Don’t make me reread your old posts to see your hints. It makes me want to lynch you

 

[TD]

Semantic misunderstanding. I said I am against role CLAIMING. I've never been against hinting. And I said in the sign up I would do that in this game since it's always pushed relentlessly.

So I did what I promised. Hinted early on and pretty obviously. I did precisely what I said I would without breaking my personal claiming rule.

I hate to break it to you - but role claiming and very suggestive role hinting is basically the exact same thing.

Now, you don't have to like it, but I already know my night action and just hope I get some help over night. That said, I find it odd how when I finally hint at a role early, no one else seems to be (except you) and I'm being called out for it. >.>

But I'd like to discuss strategy with you. Good or lucky, your senses are usually accurate. So, I'm personally choosing to give you more deference than others.

I'm going to be honest with you - even with you saying that, I haven't picked up on your specific role, so the hint maybe went past me on my quick skim. That said, you seem to really want people to believe your claim which feels.. off?

I'll tell you the biggest part of my strategy that works on outing wolves every single game. Talk. People who play quiet are only helping the baddies.

 

[Jon]

See, everyone I was useful last game. You’re welcome you ungrateful bastards

Man.... stop taking credit for my success!

 

[TD]

There's a pretty big difference between me saying don't protect me and people outing their roles and actions.

And yet there's a small difference between misguided behaviour and pro-evil behaviour.

You're acting like you saying "don't protect me" is some pro-town move when realistically it's also a great strategy for wolves, the solo killer, and a very small portion of town roles (but also selfish).

But nah - you're not suggesting anything are you?

 

[VashTheStampede]

I hate to break it to you - but role claiming and very suggestive role hinting is basically the exact same thing.

That's why I usually prefer to use super obtuse hints that people only typically get in retrospect, while accidentally saying things that people think are hints to other roles.

 

[Jon]

Don’t make me reread your old posts to see your hints. It makes me want to lynch you

Yeah, because THAT is what makes you want to lynch me.

I hate to break it to you - but role claiming and very suggestive role hinting is basically the exact same thing.

I'm going to be honest with you - even with you saying that, I haven't picked up on your specific role, so the hint maybe went past me on my quick skim. That said, you seem to really want people to believe your claim which feels.. off?

I'll tell you the biggest part of my strategy that works on outing wolves every single game. Talk. People who play quiet are only helping the baddies.

I mean, sure... I guess. But the reality is that's subjective, so believe what you will. For me, I've done exactly what i said I would. Without violating my personal standards.

My very first post dropped a hint and makes me a target for the wolves. If that gets me flatlined by those ferocious fanged (damn felines would be great here but I guess they're canines) fleabags, then at least I'll be outed as village.

 

[Zell 17]

That's why I usually prefer to use super obtuse hints that people only typically get in retrospect, while accidentally saying things that people think are hints to other roles.

My role rhymes with "Larcenist"

 

[shortkut]

My role rhymes with "Larcenist"

Fartcenist?

 

[VashTheStampede]

I'll tell you the biggest part of my strategy that works on outing wolves every single game. Talk. People who play quiet are only helping the baddies.

So far my new strategy of "freaking murder those people" has had a 100% success rate.

 

[Jon]

That's why I usually prefer to use super obtuse hints that people only typically get in retrospect, while accidentally saying things that people think are hints to other roles.

The problem is you post too fucking much.

 

[Kat]

Same strategy as always.

Except the game you hosted.

Let's not do that.

So... role claiming? We could kinda do what Kelly had suggested before and just claim strong/regular, but we're down to two strong, so that seems like a good way to get the strong villagers killed. Plus a lot of innocent people didn't cooperate last time so it kinda backfired.

 

[VashTheStampede]

My role rhymes with "Larcenist"

Kinda fucked up for the GM to out a player like that but hopefully everyone else will think you're just joking around.

 

[Kat]

You're acting like you saying "don't protect me" is some pro-town move when realistically it's also a great strategy for wolves, the solo killer, and a very small portion of town roles (but also selfish).

How so? Wolves would like to be protected. It keeps the SK from killing them and means a townie goes unprotected. "Don't protect me" sounds like a tough guy or beast hunter with a trap on themselves or similar. Or maybe just trying to dissuade attackers if he has a really useful role.

 

[VashTheStampede]

The problem is you post too fucking much.

That's between me and the Librarian

 

[Jon]

That's between me and the Librarian

Don't remind me about that some of a bitch. I'm still upset my OCD is being fucked with with the damn mime.

So... role claiming? We could kinda do what Kelly had suggested before and just claim strong/regular, but we're down to two strong, so that seems like a good way to get the strong villagers killed. Plus a lot of innocent people didn't cooperate last time so it kinda backfired.

I will also remind you that for someone who usually hardcore pushes role claiming down our throats, Kelly has been awfully mum this game.

 

[TD]

My very first post dropped a hint and makes me a target for the wolves. If that gets me flatlined by those ferocious fanged (damn felines would be great here but I guess they're canines) fleabags, then at least I'll be outed as village.

If it's the hint that I think it is then I don't think you have much to worry about right now but make sure you don't broadcast who you're doing what to.

So far my new strategy of "freaking murder those people" has had a 100% success rate.

And who would you freaking murder right now?

So... role claiming? We could kinda do what Kelly had suggested before and just claim strong/regular, but we're down to two strong, so that seems like a good way to get the strong villagers killed. Plus a lot of innocent people didn't cooperate last time so it kinda backfired.

It's kind of hard to describe what the town did in your game to be honest. There was role claiming in your game but the town just wouldn't work together and imploded. We avoid that.

We're already down 1 strong, I wouldn't want to give the wolves more.

 

[Jon]

If it's the hint that I think it is then I don't think you have much to worry about right now but make sure you don't broadcast who you're doing what to.

Like Benzine wanting to water the alter boys?

 

[TD]

How so? Wolves would like to be protected. It keeps the SK from killing them and means a townie goes unprotected. "Don't protect me" sounds like a tough guy or beast hunter with a trap on themselves or similar. Or maybe just trying to dissuade attackers if he has a really useful role.

Wolves would like to increase chances potential targets will be protected if they have a wolf, akin to that last game I was in where you were a wolf with (5?) others.

I agree on the latter. But I was Tough Guy, suggested I shouldn't be protected, was, and STILL got zerk killed.