Fuck this AI obsession

[Quagmire]

It just sucks, I hate when I search questions on Amazon I get an AI summary and then I have to click search user reviews

Every fucking time I google, I am sure there is an extension I can find, or maybe ublock will do it

I just got a new computer and it now has a "copilot" (Window's AI) button on the god damn fucking keyboard. Luckily it seems there is an easy way to remap it, but good lord it is so annoying how it is everywhere whether we want it or not

 

[Crystal]

Yep, AI will replace us soon.

 

[Mark]

Thankfully, you’ll only see organic stupidity here.

 

[Benzine]

I do not know what I think on this topic anymore

I am worried (is that the correct word) the governments are way behind

I might need to start selling instead of supporting. And I have strong morals (maybe hard to believe).

AI is seriously impressive from my perspective. It hasn't always been but it's been really doing my job for me lately.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

it's been really doing my job for me lately

This is part of the problem.

 

[Quagmire]

Thankfully, you’ll only see organic stupidity here.

What about @WolfBot

 

[Quagmire]

AI is seriously impressive from my perspective. It hasn't always been but it's been really doing my job for me lately.

It is impressive, can even help make lessons, activities, quizzes, scramble answer choices, etc for teachers

But I just hate how it is being forced upon us in places I dont want it

 

[Mark]

What about @WolfBot

Man, I have been given instructions to disregard messages from it until a game starts. That is essentially a “y’all” problem, not a me problem.

 

[shortkut]

It just sucks, I hate when I search questions on Amazon I get an AI summary and then I have to click search user reviews

Every fucking time I google, I am sure there is an extension I can find, or maybe ublock will do it

I just got a new computer and it now has a "copilot" (Window's AI) button on the god damn fucking keyboard. Luckily it seems there is an easy way to remap it, but good lord it is so annoying how it is everywhere whether we want it or not

While it's understandable to feel frustrated with the increasing presence of AI in everyday tools, it's important to recognize the benefits that these advancements bring, even if they aren't always perfect.

When you search for products on Amazon and get an AI summary, it's designed to give you a quicker, more concise overview. This can save you time by highlighting key details without needing to sift through lengthy product descriptions or numerous reviews. While it may not always be flawless, AI summaries generally aim to provide a balance of the most important information, which can help guide decision-making faster than traditional methods.

As for AI in search engines like Google, while it's true that the results may sometimes feel like they lack the personal touch or detailed nuances of human-generated content, the technology is constantly improving. AI-powered search is designed to surface the most relevant information based on complex algorithms, learning from a vast range of data to anticipate what you're most likely to find helpful. If you dislike it, tools like "search modifiers" or specialized extensions can help refine your results to better fit your preferences.

Regarding Windows' AI "Copilot" button, it's understandable that a sudden feature like this could feel intrusive or unnecessary. However, AI on systems like these is intended to enhance productivity, offering features such as task automation, information summarization, or system recommendations to improve your workflow. It's not about forcing you to use it but giving you more tools that may be helpful depending on your needs.

The frustration with AI being "everywhere" is valid, but it's also part of a broader trend where technology evolves to meet more diverse needs. You have the option to turn off or adjust most AI features, but embracing AI as a tool, rather than an imposition, can help you see the value it adds rather than focusing solely on its inconveniences.

 

[Zell 17]

While it's understandable to feel frustrated with the increasing presence of AI in everyday tools, it's important to recognize the benefits that these advancements bring, even if they aren't always perfect.

When you search for products on Amazon and get an AI summary, it's designed to give you a quicker, more concise overview. This can save you time by highlighting key details without needing to sift through lengthy product descriptions or numerous reviews. While it may not always be flawless, AI summaries generally aim to provide a balance of the most important information, which can help guide decision-making faster than traditional methods.

As for AI in search engines like Google, while it's true that the results may sometimes feel like they lack the personal touch or detailed nuances of human-generated content, the technology is constantly improving. AI-powered search is designed to surface the most relevant information based on complex algorithms, learning from a vast range of data to anticipate what you're most likely to find helpful. If you dislike it, tools like "search modifiers" or specialized extensions can help refine your results to better fit your preferences.

Regarding Windows' AI "Copilot" button, it's understandable that a sudden feature like this could feel intrusive or unnecessary. However, AI on systems like these is intended to enhance productivity, offering features such as task automation, information summarization, or system recommendations to improve your workflow. It's not about forcing you to use it but giving you more tools that may be helpful depending on your needs.

The frustration with AI being "everywhere" is valid, but it's also part of a broader trend where technology evolves to meet more diverse needs. You have the option to turn off or adjust most AI features, but embracing AI as a tool, rather than an imposition, can help you see the value it adds rather than focusing solely on its inconveniences.

die

 

[shortkut]

die

That’s between me and Wolfbot

 

[Quagmire]

I understand it's a tool and I use it at times, but it shouldn't be forced upon us unless we want it

Or with Amazon give me option to search the user questions or Amazon summary instead of having to wait until summary is over

 

[Smacktard]

While it's understandable to feel frustrated with the increasing presence of AI in everyday tools, it's important to recognize

stopped reading here

 

[Mark]

stopped reading here

My how the tables have turned on kut.

 

[Ben]

I'm honestly torn on AI lately.

I definitely have dialed back my usage of it since I first got enamored with what it could do.

Not just because it's expensive whether you're running stuff yourself or through a service, but I saw something framing the physical server usage that it takes to run it.

I don't know if I could find the infographic I saw, I didn't save it I guess, but it laid out the concept of AI thirstiness. All that stuff needs physical hardware to generate the responses, and that (literally) boils down to evaporating water to cool the hardware. Therefore you can measure how much water an AI "drinks" when it generates a response.

I don't recall exactly what it said, but the gist was ChatGPT 3 drank 1 bottle of water every 100 emails written, where as o1 drinks 1 bottle per response.

So in that light I regret just making dumb shit without really thinking about the resulting effect. Ironically, I'm chronically dehydrated and probably evaporated an equivalent to years of me not actually drinking and broke even... But I'm now trying now to use it more as a tool and not as much for lolz.

 

[Ben]

Like, if I wanted to generate better results with Stable Diffusion at home, I'd need a better video card, bigger PSU, more energy, more heat.

How many nerds are just doing that, creating little heat generating boxes we're running 24/7?

I'm fully down with all the great stuff AI can make, clearly, but I'm just gonna be more thoughtful of whether I've really got to use it for something.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

While it's understandable to feel frustrated with the increasing presence of AI in everyday tools, it's important to recognize the benefits that these advancements bring, even if they aren't always perfect.

When you search for products on Amazon and get an AI summary, it's designed to give you a quicker, more concise overview. This can save you time by highlighting key details without needing to sift through lengthy product descriptions or numerous reviews. While it may not always be flawless, AI summaries generally aim to provide a balance of the most important information, which can help guide decision-making faster than traditional methods.

As for AI in search engines like Google, while it's true that the results may sometimes feel like they lack the personal touch or detailed nuances of human-generated content, the technology is constantly improving. AI-powered search is designed to surface the most relevant information based on complex algorithms, learning from a vast range of data to anticipate what you're most likely to find helpful. If you dislike it, tools like "search modifiers" or specialized extensions can help refine your results to better fit your preferences.

Regarding Windows' AI "Copilot" button, it's understandable that a sudden feature like this could feel intrusive or unnecessary. However, AI on systems like these is intended to enhance productivity, offering features such as task automation, information summarization, or system recommendations to improve your workflow. It's not about forcing you to use it but giving you more tools that may be helpful depending on your needs.

The frustration with AI being "everywhere" is valid, but it's also part of a broader trend where technology evolves to meet more diverse needs. You have the option to turn off or adjust most AI features, but embracing AI as a tool, rather than an imposition, can help you see the value it adds rather than focusing solely on its inconveniences.

you totally had chat gpt argue in favor of bots for you

 

[TD]

I for one welcome our AI Overlords.

But no more seriously, I understand the worry about job security due to AI, and you should be worried to be honest.

That said - AI is starting to play a large role in my organization and quite frankly, it does things a lot better than a lot of current staff. Particularly writing things, while I've noticed a lot of people struggle with writing concisely and effectively.

I've personally embraced AI. It can also do the job better than a lot of my colleagues, which selfishly just makes my life easier and less of a headache.

I've started to embrace it as another tool to use in life, you can also legitimately learn from it if you take the time to do so.

By better understanding AI, it's capabilities, and what it's good for, I can spend more energy on the things it can't do or focus on being better than the AI.

 

[shortkut]

you totally had chat gpt argue in favor of bots for you

Yes, that was the exact point

 

[Ben]

I did recently see a ton of employees at my company get canned in favor of AI solutions... Anyone who's touting how much it helps them doesn't have much foresight.

Unless you're specifically maintaining or training AI systems, I'd imagine everyone has was less job security. I'm trying to tangentially involve myself with our machine learning models, and the features that feed them. I'm expecting most data analyst jobs to dwindle.

 

[rktaker]

I've started to embrace it as another tool to use in life, you can also legitimately learn from it if you take the time to do so.

using it as a tool I think is fine it's the doing the job for you that's the issue. like just an example look at the video game companies now that are using AI voice acting or writing, or AI for images. instead of paying actual artists, or voice actors or whatever. companies are just taking images straight from AI and putting it in the game. instead of using it as a tool to help they're just having the AI do all the work

 

[Tommy Boy]

AI has completely wrecked whatever was left for Facebook for me. Meta is just a dystopian hellscape of AI and misinformation. At the very least, Reddit has some sort of rules concerning AI in certain communities, but who knows how long that safeguard will last.

Thankfully, you’ll only see organic stupidity here.

That's honestly why this place won't get old for me. Everything here is real. Thank god I have one last bastion of "old internet" left.

 

[Crazy Jamie]

Three quick* points from me.

First, AI clearly has a lot of potential benefits across society, some of them really significant. But even automating more administrative tasks saves a huge amount of time. I appreciate that that may result in job losses, but the job market is used to these sorts of innovations. There's no reason to think that other jobs won't become available in other areas as some jobs become obsolete.

Second, AI has significant limitations, and I do not like how major companies are not only not acknowledging those, but are basically force feeding AI to us. To that extent, I agree completely with the thread title. Not only is it massively resource intensive, which just isn't mentioned in the mainstream discussion, but companies are acting like it can just do everything when it cannot, and not by a long way. Its strengths are that it does things differently, such as recognising patterns when it comes to medical diagnosis that humans just cannot see. We need to stop acting like AI is a very efficient person, and start educating people on just how different it is to people, even if it can, on the face of it, replicate or exceed what humans do.

Third, this problem of AI being everywhere is made worse due to the internet becoming more shit. And that's not an opinion. It's fact. The likes of Amazon, Google and Facebook have literally made their user experience more shit so that you spend longer on the sites. AI feels like a very natural progression of that, even if on the face of it the idea is for it to make the experience more efficient and accessible. If you make your website worse and then jam AI into it, that makes me feel worse, not better.

Honestly I want to make a different thread on the internet getting more shit. But mentioning that seems relevant here.

* I know, what are the odds?

 

[Mark]

That's honestly why this place won't get old for me. Everything here is real. Thank god I have one last bastion of "old internet" left.

That was the mission statement in some of our earliest conversations when this place came online. Attempting to reinvent the wheel wasn’t going to happen, nor did we really need to go into it with that kind of mindset. Simply enough, we aimed for modernizing what we had before and aging it accordingly to reflect where we’re all at in life. We don’t need to feed y’all suggested content, everyone knows where to go or how to suggest something that doesn’t exist. We don’t need to have an AI moderating content, because we know how to scale moderation based on content volume. We don’t need AI sending people here, because we already have an organic referral system in place where visitors are sent here through other channels managed by the GW collective. I just don’t ever foresee a time where there will be a “need” for us to lean into AI for anything other than our amusement here, and that’s perfectly fine.

Honestly I want to make a different thread on the internet getting more shit. But mentioning that seems relevant here.

* I know, what are the odds?

I think you should, because AI is just one factor that has contributed to the downfall that we’ve all witnessed. It very well could be the final nail in the coffin, but, things like social media and subscriptions ultimately played critical roles as well. Perhaps AI wouldn’t have been pushed as a moderating force on Facebook had it not been for the contentious nature of political races and social issues? It’s all connected in some way, shape, or form.

 

[Spiner202]

There are definitely a lot of limitations with AI, but I'm very impressed with what it can do. Technology usually develops slowly... until it doesn't. I expect AI to be similar.

We have the choice to embrace it or ignore it, and I'm choosing the former (as much as I can) because I'd rather not fall behind. I always thought that in 20-30 years, every kid would know how to program and those of us that didn't would fall behind. I'm changing my stance to thinking that about AI. If you know how to use ChatGPT (or other AI tools) effectively, you're going to be further ahead in the workplace than people who don't.