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Pretty excited for this, I bought my 360 to get Oblivion. I have been hankering to replay both morrowind and oblivion. Though Morrowind was far more recent than Oblivion. Not a day 1 get for me, but pretty fucking exciting.

I would kill for a Morrowind Remaster or a Daggerfell (I know that will never happen though)
 

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Not a new new new new new new new new new new new re:Re:Re:re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Skyrim? Booo!


Didn't click or read more into it. If they've modernized it beyond what Skyrim is then maybe I'll consider it. I'm getting too impatient for some of the older slower burn RPGs.
 

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Oblivion was pretty lit, I remember playing that shit on a CRT TV.

Though horse armor was the original DLC sin...

I'd still probably buy it, though. Not like I haven't fucking owned Skyrim on 10 different platforms at this point.
 

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People got Oblivion again before another Skyrim release and TES6?

Maybe one day we’ll see the second trailer for TES6. Maybe.
 

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My assumption is that they just don't have much incentive to make a new stand-alone game.

They have Elder Scrolls Online now, and they're more than likely to just put their resources into that to milk a monthly subscription or microtransactions than they are to make a full new game that's worth the full cost.

I guess they'd do both, realistically, but the actual game iteration is going to take longer.
 

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My assumption is that they just don't have much incentive to make a new stand-alone game.

They have Elder Scrolls Online now, and they're more than likely to just put their resources into that to milk a monthly subscription or microtransactions than they are to make a full new game that's worth the full cost.

I guess they'd do both, realistically, but the actual game iteration is going to take longer.

I’m just not a fan of these growing development cycles, man… they’re exceeding system life cycles at this point. I understand the games nowadays are far more complex, but, it’s getting ridiculous.
 

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They made Fallout 4 then Starfield, and Todd Howard clearly doesn't want anyone else making a TES mainline game.

TES VI is already in production and has been since shortly before Starfield launched.

I know they have a full plate of stuff in development and have for years, but, they gotta expand the teams or bite off less at a time or something. It’s just crazy to me that we’re waiting over a decade for games now, that just doesn’t seem sustainable when they’re competing with yearly releases and other AAA titles that take less time. Bethesda and Rockstar both are ridiculous with their timelines.
 
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I know they have a full plate of stuff in development and have for years, but, they gotta expand the teams or bite off less at a time or something. It’s just crazy to me that we’re waiting over a decade for games now, that just doesn’t seem sustainable when they’re competing with yearly releases and other AAA titles that take less time. Bethesda and Rockstar both are ridiculous with their timelines.
Howard just needs to relax creative control a bit. Fallout New Vegas was a fantastic game by a different studio and the game's shortfalls were down to its comically compressed development schedule. I know he has said recently with the success of the Fallout TV show that there are other Fallout games in the pipeline other than the Fallout 5 his team plans to make after TES VI. One of them is likely the Fallout 3 remaster that was leaked in the FTC documents, but he implied there was something else too.

There's no reason the Elder Scrolls can't go the same way, especially since the Online game seems to have been successful.

I don't know what to think about Rockstar. Games take much longer these days. RDR2 was phenomenal and it's clear that GTA Online has taken up a lot of their time since it prints money.
 

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Howard just needs to relax creative control a bit. Fallout New Vegas was a fantastic game by a different studio and the game's shortfalls were down to its comically compressed development schedule. I know he has said recently with the success of the Fallout TV show that there are other Fallout games in the pipeline other than the Fallout 5 his team plans to make after TES VI. One of them is likely the Fallout 3 remaster that was leaked in the FTC documents, but he implied there was something else too.

I agree. These games have been around for so long that people that grew up playing it are in the field now. They would be passion projects for those guys no different than the originals were for Todd.

There's no reason the Elder Scrolls can't go the same way, especially since the Online game seems to have been successful.

I don't know what to think about Rockstar. Games take much longer these days. RDR2 was phenomenal and it's clear that GTA Online has taken up a lot of their time since it prints money.

That’s the thing… all of those resources invested in online play and DLC content could have been put towards the new titles, but, these titles in development are so intensive that they almost have to have a continuous income to sustain development. Unless something changes, cycles are going to continually stretch out.
 
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The internet continues to put way too much onus on Todd Howard, though. I don't see why or how everyone assumes he is the only person that makes all decisions at Bethesda, has too much of a tight grip over everything, etc. A lot of those character traits are just ballooned rumors, compounded over the years from various internet discussion boards playing a glorified game of telephone about this man. I've met the artist that made a lot of the 3D models still used by Bethesda, and even he admitted that Todd had very little "omnipotence" over how projects came to be. He would be in charge, yes, but functions similar to any boss in any setting. The internet just needs a target, most of the time.

Bethesda is just leaning into the new game development cycle that all developers have embrace - release, monetize, delay new titles. I don't give them the pass for it, but it's the same idea as getting mad at only Nintendo for expensive games, when we have had $70-80 games for years. All of these companies are slowing down their development cycles, thinning out their teams, taking decades to make games that used to take 2-3 years. Something has entirely changed within the industry that is out of our control. Our wallets, quite literally, do nothing to prevent them from stopping the madness that is enshitificating the gaming industry. Rockstar Games went completely overboard with GTA5, making it a digital casino whether people like to admit that or not. RDR2 completely stopped getting attention because a person was more willing to spend real money on a shark card for in-game GTA currency. TF???

There really is no excuse as to why the development cycle has ballooned into this nightmare of a waiting game, but the explanation is clear as day. They don't care, and we continue to buy their shit, because what else are we going to do? Not play? Yeah that'll show them, that group of 30 people boycotting a game against 540,000 active players. It sucks feeling so powerless within an industry that has molded you as a person, as corny as that sounds. Oblivion set the stage for the types of games I would continue to enjoy up to now. I owe a lot of my early fascination of lore and deep world building to Oblivion. I was ready for Starfield to continue to build on what was started, but when that didn't happen, I think I finally came to terms with it. We lived through the golden era and it's done. The games we enjoyed during the golden era will always be our favorites. Which is why I am ready to spend whatever I have to spend to play this dumb fuckin remake, and no longer have anxiety/desire for a TES 6.
 
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I know they have a full plate of stuff in development and have for years, but, they gotta expand the teams or bite off less at a time or something. It’s just crazy to me that we’re waiting over a decade for games now, that just doesn’t seem sustainable when they’re competing with yearly releases and other AAA titles that take less time. Bethesda and Rockstar both are ridiculous with their timelines.

100% agree. I get that games are more complex but there has to be some way to speed up the process. Bigger is not always better

Give creators more restraints and force them to be creative. So much creativity is spawn from figuring out how to get around restrictions or roadblocks.
 

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There really is no excuse as to why the development cycle has ballooned into this nightmare of a waiting game, but the explanation is clear as day. They don't care, and we continue to buy their shit, because what else are we going to do? Not play? Yeah that'll show them, that group of 30 people boycotting a game against 540,000 active players. It sucks feeling so powerless within an industry that has molded you as a person, as corny as that sounds. Oblivion set the stage for the types of games I would continue to enjoy up to now. I owe a lot of my early fascination of lore and deep world building to Oblivion. I was ready for Starfield to continue to build on what was started, but when that didn't happen, I think I finally came to terms with it. We lived through the golden era and it's done. The games we enjoyed during the golden era will always be our favorites. Which is why I am ready to spend whatever I have to spend to play this dumb fuckin remake, and no longer have anxiety/desire for a TES 6.
Have you ever played Morrowind? Because Morrowind -> Oblivion felt to me like Oblivion -> Starfield felt to you.

Skyrim redeemed them IMO, but I've still never experienced anything as wonderful and weird and magical as Morrowind.
 
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I missed out on Morrowind, not sure why. Maybe it's just that I wasn't much of an RPG guy. I tried to get into it a few times but it just feels too dated. I'd love a remaster for that reason.

Oblivion was great, but I accept that part of that was because it was one of the first big titles on the shiny new Xbox 360. The game is fun but massively flawed.

For some reason Skyrim never grabbed me. I did eventually finish it (the main quest anyway) and I acknowledge that time and place aside it's a better game than Oblivion, but I just couldn't adore it like so many other people do.

Starfield is a pile of wank.
 
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The internet continues to put way too much onus on Todd Howard, though. I don't see why or how everyone assumes he is the only person that makes all decisions at Bethesda, has too much of a tight grip over everything, etc. A lot of those character traits are just ballooned rumors, compounded over the years from various internet discussion boards playing a glorified game of telephone about this man. I've met the artist that made a lot of the 3D models still used by Bethesda, and even he admitted that Todd had very little "omnipotence" over how projects came to be. He would be in charge, yes, but functions similar to any boss in any setting. The internet just needs a target, most of the time.
I agree for the most part, but my specific comment was about keeping Fallout in-house which he has said was his decision.
 

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I missed out on Morrowind, not sure why. Maybe it's just that I wasn't much of an RPG guy. I tried to get into it a few times but it just feels too dated. I'd love a remaster for that reason.

Oblivion was great, but I accept that part of that was because it was one of the first big titles on the shiny new Xbox 360. The game is fun but massively flawed.

For some reason Skyrim never grabbed me. I did eventually finish it (the main quest anyway) and I acknowledge that time and place aside it's a better game than Oblivion, but I just couldn't adore it like so many other people do.

Starfield is a pile of wank.
In some ways Morrowind felt dated even way back when it came out. i almost dropped it during the first few hours.

Pushed through and ended up spending hundreds of hours in that game. I fucking love it. One of the all-time greats. I wish it were getting a remaster instead of Oblivion ;_;
 
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Have you ever played Morrowind? Because Morrowind -> Oblivion felt to me like Oblivion -> Starfield felt to you.

Skyrim redeemed them IMO, but I've still never experienced anything as wonderful and weird and magical as Morrowind.
God yes. This was my first experience with TES. My babysitter played it (lol) and he essentially explained to me what an RPG was and how it works. I couldn't believe you could just steal shit. I fucked with the Ordinators so much, always getting my shit kicked in lol. I didn't have an OG Xbox, so I never was able to play it besides a few times, and primarily I watched him. Four years later, I had not realized Oblivion was the sequel to that insanely kickass game with the pickpocketing and gold armor guys. Morrowind is fucking incredible and will always be one of the greats.
God I would LOVE a Morrowind remake
Me too. It's the only reason I touched ESO. They did a Vvardenfell expansion, and seeing familiar areas of the game, but on a way better engine, and a few couple hundred years in the past - it was so god damn cool. I played literally just to play through the expansion and then uninstalled. I actually had a good time though.
I agree for the most part, but my specific comment was about keeping Fallout in-house which he has said was his decision.
Oh all good dude, I don't think you're the people I'm talking about - just what you said reminded me of how Reddit people either worship or crucify Todd Howard and I kind of went of a ramble lol
 

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Me too. It's the only reason I touched ESO. They did a Vvardenfell expansion, and seeing familiar areas of the game, but on a way better engine, and a few couple hundred years in the past - it was so god damn cool. I played literally just to play through the expansion and then uninstalled. I actually had a good time though
This was the only reason I was ever interested in ESO. I never played it, but I read up on a bunch of lore when it came out. I don't normally give a shit about lore in the games I DO play, and here I was reading the lore of a game is never play. That's how rich and unique the world crafting was in Morrowind IMO.

I wish we'd get another alien fantasy world like Morrowind but they've been playing it safe with Roman Empire game and Viking game.
 
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I'm torn. I know this will be available on multiple platforms, and I stopped paying for my Game Pass Ultimate in December. I'm willing to restart the subscription, but then I wonder...

I probably won't be able to add mods if this is on Game Pass. So I think it might be worth it to just buy it on Steam for the eventual mod support. But at the same time, IDK how long that's going to be, and I don't want to drop $60-70 on a game I already have. Dang.

Save games between Fallout 76 on Bethesda Launcher didn't transfer to Steam because the Bethesda launcher was running some weird Xbox version of the Fallout 76 (through the Xbox app in the background), so that leads me to believe that the same thing could happen here. Maybe not since this is an offline game, though.
 
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If they remake Oblivion, FO3 and FNV should be easy to convert. They all used the same engine.
I really hope they're already in the works. According to that leaked MS document, Fallout 3 remaster was already on the menu and supposed to be coming around the same time as this. It wouldn't surprise me if MS broke up the work between studios to get all of these done while Bethesda main studio works on TES 6 (lmfao)
 
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I take it you bought it on Steam then? :ROFLMAO:

I'm still on 33% despite my leased line.
As soon as he said "today" on the stream, I reactivated Game Pass lmao. I don't want to spend money yet when mods will still take some time. Once there are a bunch, I'll probably grab the game on sale whenever that happens on Steam.
 
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Will I pick this up? At some point probably. I had been thinking of a replay as I had only played it on 360, but I usually prioritize new experiences over replays, and the big 3 I want to knock out are Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Avowed and Pirate Yakuza which will probably take a good chunk of the rest of my year
 
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