Week 2 NFL Discussion Thread

[VashTheStampede]

Didn't see one already up but I have a grievance:

Why the hell are there two Monday Night games playing at the same time?

 

[TD]

That's.. strange.

I've only ever seen that happen due to weather considerations. Is that maybe why?

 

[VashTheStampede]

I guess they did this last year too?

 

[TD]

I just checked. You're right.

I remember they used to open the season with a double header on MNF but they weren't at the same time.

 

[Spiner202]

I believe it's a contract thing with ESPN - they want 16 games a year (or now 17), but the NFL always ends the season with only Sunday games*. So to give them that last game, they do a week 1 doubleheader. I'm not sure why they have switched to doing it in week 2.

I'm also not sure why the games overlap. They used to get a lot of AFC West/NFC West teams since the late time slot could only be a west coast team, but I'd still think that's a better option than having two games on at the same time.

*I was thinking recently that if the reason for ending with all teams playing on Sunday in week 18 is fairness going into the playoffs, that doesn't really make a lot of sense given that some teams play on Saturday, Sunday, and even Monday in the playoffs, so some teams always have less rest than others in the playoffs.

 

[Mark]

I believe it's a contract thing with ESPN - they want 16 games a year (or now 17), but the NFL always ends the season with only Sunday games*. So to give them that last game, they do a week 1 doubleheader. I'm not sure why they have switched to doing it in week 2.

I'm also not sure why the games overlap. They used to get a lot of AFC West/NFC West teams since the late time slot could only be a west coast team, but I'd still think that's a better option than having two games on at the same time.

*I was thinking recently that if the reason for ending with all teams playing on Sunday in week 18 is fairness going into the playoffs, that doesn't really make a lot of sense given that some teams play on Saturday, Sunday, and even Monday in the playoffs, so some teams always have less rest than others in the playoffs.

Like you, I started following threads to try to make sense of it. I went to the schedule thinking… “maybe it’s a London game?” BZZZ. Nope. Flex game? Too early in the season. Postponement? Naaah.

Then I finally landed on corporate gains. The MVP of the NFL.

 

[Rick52]

the final week scheduling is so that teams battling for the same playoff spot exert the same level of competitiveness for it, ideally

so if, for example, Teams A & B were battling for the final wild card and B has the tiebreaker, and A was playing C early while B was playing D late; if A loses then B no longer has any reason to play and so BvD would no longer have stakes; I suppose its not so much a matter of keeping things fair as it is making sure as many eyeballs tune into both games as possible

as for the Monday night game, ESPN has a press release about it but it just sounds like them coping over the NFL screwing them around like they love to do

 

[Spiner202]

Ah that makes way more sense that it is to keep everyone playing hard in the last week.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

two Monday night games, no Manningcast. What's the point?

 

[TD]

...I worry about this Raiders game.

 

[TD]

Anthony Richardson is the newest RB disguised as a QB.

 

[TD]

Anthony Richardson is the newest RB disguised as a QB.

Aaaand he's hurt. Being evaluated for concussion.

It's Minshew time!

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I might be wrong, but I think the Colts are a much better team than the Texans.

 

[TD]

I might be wrong, but I think the Colts are a much better team than the Texans.

Who isn't?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Who isn't?

Cardinals, probably.

 

[TD]

I'm not used to watching the Bengals offense play like this.

Burrow  has to be hurt still - right?

 

[turkey]

I'm not used to watching the Bengals offense play like this.

Burrow  has to be hurt still - right?

I drafted him this year. It’s all my fault.

 

[TD]

Watching the Raiders online communities who loved us getting rid of Carr eating crow and implode is honestly so satisfying. Almost like he wasn't the problem.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I like Garoppolo and all but never understood why people thought he was such a big upgrade over Carr.

 

[TD]

I like Garoppolo and all but never understood why people thought he was such a big upgrade over Carr.

Raiders fans just can't accept that the overall  team is very bad.

I'm a Raiders fan through and through - but I'm not naive.

I'm happy for Carr that he moved on and all these younger Raiders fans who don't know the pain of a QB carousel are quite frankly getting what they deserve right now.

I was predicting 4-13 before the season and so far that doesn't seem far fetched.

 

[TD]

Is Jordan Love... good?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Fun factoid. With Aaron Rodgers out, Matt Stafford is the has been in the NFL the longest out of currently starting NFL QBs.

Matt Stafford - 2009
Russell Wilson - 2012
Kurt Cousins - 2012
Ryan Tannehill - 2012
Geno Smith - 2013
Jimmy G - 2014
Derek Carr - 2014
Jared Goff - 2016
Dak Prescott - 2016

If the Cardinals didn't cut Colt McCoy knowing that letting him start would lead to him winning games for them, he'd be the second longest, as he was drafted in 2010.

 

[TD]

Quite a few games today gonna come down to a tight ending.

 

[TD]

An overtime kind of afternoon.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Lions got held on that TD....

 

[TD]

Lions got held on that TD....

You mean refs are still blowing calls on game deciding plays?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Lions got screwed over numerous times. There was that facemask call, too. Defensive player got hit with a DPI penalty while his facemask was being held and the penalties cancelled each other out even though there's no "DPI" if his facemask wasn't getting held.

 

[TD]

I've seen a lot of really shit calls / no-calls from watching RedZone today.

At least I cheer for a team that's so bad that officiating is a moot point.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Browns get fucked over by shitty calls on a weekly basis. In 2020, we had a chance to win the divisional round and move on to the Championship round if the refs didn't completely miss a helmet to helmet hit that resulted in the receiver losing the ball right before passing into the endzone resulting in a touchback.

 

[TD]

Spoiler alert: All teams get fucked over by the refs always. The refs are atrocious. One of the big reasons I stopped watching NFL games for a while is because refs make games painful to watch even if you're not rooting for a particular team.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I love that Baker Mayfield is 2-0 this season, so far.

 

[Spiner202]

Tough win for the Chiefs. Jawaan Taylor is going to be an $80 million problem for the next 4 years for us. Playcalling on offence is pretty suspect - just need to slow it down and run the ball a bit. And the receivers need to hold onto the ball and stop fumbling everything.

Thankfully, we have the Bears next week, but the Chiefs need to get things cleaned up.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

"I'm talking to America here."

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Giants are so bad.

 

[TD]

Playcalling on offence is pretty suspect - just need to slow it down and run the ball a bit.

It blows my mind that they didn't invest much in receiving options yet continue to have this kind of pass to run ratio.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Giants are never going to score.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

the Giants finally scored!!!

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I missed most of the games today because I'm moving and decided that the Pats was the obvious choice. Love that we're getting the throwbacks again finally. Way better jerseys.

Although I did see the broncos get a bomb at the end of regulation to set up a 2 point conversion. Great play. Didn't close it out obviously.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I don't know if the Giants coming back is more of a resilience thing on the Giants side, or a "we're fucking tank, stop trying" thing on the Cardinals side.

I understand that mounting comebacks is not a new thing for Danny Derps, as his first game was like that. Maybe Daboll actually deserved that CotY award he got last year.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Hate the Pats (grew up a Dolphins fan in the Marino era) but I LOVE those throwbacks.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

The throwbacks are the best ones we have, logo and all.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Tua's a lefty, so I'm obligated to be a fan of his.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Yeah I'm glad the NFL finally changed that silly One Helmet Shell rule and let us get some helmet variants.

Seemed like they were just purposely declining money before.

 

[VashTheStampede]

This is pretty cool watching a Saints game and not living and dying by every play anymore.

Funny how referee trauma can affect you.

 

[Tubby23]

Referee trauma may be the worst form of trauma in sports worldwide.

 

[TD]

As a Raider fan I know nothing of referee trauma.

 

[Tubby23]

So much pain.

Then you look at referee trauma like Earl Hebner calling for the bell early to screw Brett and you realise all referees will do is bring you pain

 

[TD]

 

[VashTheStampede]

When Taysom Hill comes in at QB why the HELL don't you load the box? You know he's running!

I mean, keep on doing what you're doing I guess.

 

[TD]

Taysom Hill is what Tim Tebow wishes he became.