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The primary difference between cupid and instigator is that with instigator, you cannot win on your original team no matter what. So I had no reason not to trust Zell because he can't win with the wolves. Since he was the one with the seer ability, what reason would he have to lie? To keep us in the dark maybe? But I believe his read and don't believe there were errors in this game.
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I'm not sure we should be revealing this much information seeing as how the ritualist is alive. But whereas it's Jawneh who essentially had access to the wolf chat too, I don't think it matters. But whatever.
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Yeah it's okay, all the info is out there at this point.
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I've been pissed this game and haven't engaged.
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I was a little mad when I died the first time too, because I didn't understand wtf was going on and was convinced the game was broken. I cooled off and talked to Benzine about it, and realized I just needed to chill & trust that nothing is broken and that running games in different time zones on vacation is time consuming and difficult to manage. Regardless of that, I'm sorry you're mad this game (which typically happens when there is a traitor in the team) but I hope you can shake it off in a few days and recharge the battery. It sucks being lied to even in the spirit of the game. Try not to let it get under your skin too much, man.
 
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Tommy Boy said:
I was a little mad when I died the first time too, because I didn't understand wtf was going on and was convinced the game was broken. I cooled off and talked to Benzine about it, and realized I just needed to chill & trust that nothing is broken and that running games in different time zones on vacation is time consuming and difficult to manage. Regardless of that, I'm sorry you're mad this game (which typically happens when there is a traitor in the team) but I hope you can shake it off in a few days and recharge the battery. It sucks being lied to even in the spirit of the game. Try not to let it get under your skin too much, man.
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Yeah, this isn't why I was pissed.

I was pissed I wasn't allowed to play the game because of someone else's unilateral choice. It's not fun, it's not interesting, and I gave up.

Anyone that's played with me knows I'm the first to make the team/sacrifice play. Zell decided "fuck you" to me and took me completely out of the game. Then threw a "if it makes you feel better I was throwing you under the bus anyway" response when he outted himself as instigated in wolf chat. And no, that doesn't make me feel better. it makes it more dickish. Dimmerwit was killed early. I was thrown under the bus with no conversation or hesitation and Kut has reaped the benefit of playing hide and seek because we well hid Local.

All it would have taken was a "hey, do you mind if I out you to strengthen my seer lie?" I would have been all for it and he wouldn't have even had to reveal himself as instigated. It's simply the "I'm making your decision for you" part. And it's another reason I say fuck Cupid and Instigator. Those roles are fucking abhorrent.
 
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Tommy Boy said:
I am waiting for the results of this game to just be: Alu lied a lot, and everyone believed him, but he was still good and not evil so it was ok :chuckle


I didn't get to pick, it was assigned to me and I was still able to be killed by the wolves, hence the good aura. Jawneh is the instigated villager, AND the ritualist! What a combo!
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More proof we should always lynch him day 1!

Also how he was not the Lynch last night over you is beyond comprehension

He literally brought back the instigator which which makes him suspect number 1
 
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Quagmire said:
Also how he was not the Lynch last night over you is beyond comprehension

He literally brought back the instigator which which makes him suspect number 1
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I was surprised too, but went with it. If they had killed one of the pair before me, I wouldn't be able to get a kill off before shortkut and he would be unknown to be the last wolf. Pretty much why I backed off preventing myself getting lynched a second time. So we were pretty lucky the town went with me as the safe option
 
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shortkut said:
He was upset about the aura thing in the beginning. It wasn't until later that he tried to shout about a scribe, but that wouldn't explain the aura discrepancy
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I like how now they decide to address this lol. "The aura discrepancy" is a deflection, plain and simple. The only reason there was a discrepancy in the aura is because Alu lied about the aura saying it is Unknown. A wolf scribe could change my death report to "Tommy has been lynched by the village. He was the Instigator" - all it takes is one person to mastermind this plan - literally no mention of an aura in a death report. The fact that they happened to actually get me and reveal me to be the Instigator was luck - the scribe used both powers to alter Jon and Local's deaths, not mine. The scribe acted twice in this game and the possibility has been dismissed. It's actually kinda funny lol.
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It is most likely that Tommy was the instigator and taken aback that he was discovered. Not being able to kill and having a good aura should protect him from most seers
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....exactly, which is why everyone is confused on how he got to the result he did, and why he chose to lie. What actual role could tell someone what actual team they are on? Seers can see auras or if someone did/didn't kill - that's it. There is no way Alu would have been told the word "Unknown" for any reason when checking me, so he's either a completely different role or lying about his reads, which again, doesn't make sense unless it's "for the lolz".
 
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shortkut said:
Maybe he guessed and if he was proven wrong would be lynched as the fool
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I also thought this, but after Zell told us Ants was the solo, I had to back off this possibility. So I'm really confused because Jon said the read came back as solo, but Ants affirms he was the doctor. Ants, if you were lying because the ritualist is alive, it's ok lol you can tell us now :chuckle
 
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Ants! said:
So if kut and zell are wolves, FR is gunner, and Jawneh is a ritualist and Vash the marksman, then I guess Alu is the SV? Would make sense since everyone keeps saying he's been caught lying about being a seer.
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The only issue with that: both an instigated wolf with the seer ability and a non-instigated wolf have said that you are not the doctor. You were the very first read (stapler). I know shortkut is the scribe wolf which has the ability to change death reports. So something else inexplicable is going on.
 
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