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Zell Wolf Wolf day 4

Lynch?

  • Alu

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ants

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • FR

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jawneh

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • shortkut

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Vash

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Zell 17

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10
  • Poll closed .
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Dictionary: https://gwforums.com/threads/zell-wolf-role-dictionary-and-hall-of-fame.427/

Here's the list of players:

  • Alu
  • Ants
  • canadaguy
  • Dead body
  • dimmerwit
  • Fools
  • Jawneh
  • Jon
  • Local Hero
  • Quagmire
  • shortkut
  • Tommy Boy
  • VashTheStampede
  • Zell 17
And here are the roles:

Village team:
3x Random Strong Villagers
5x Random Regular Villagers

Note: There will be NO MORE than one person who has a "speak with the dead" role. There will also be no more than one person with a "lock players up at night" role. There may be none of either, but there won't be multiple.

Wolf team:
4x Random Wolves

The werewolves can be any of the numbered wolves (except regular werewolf) listed in the dictionary.

Solo team:
1x Random Killer

Wildcard Role:
1x Random Fool/Headhunter/Werewolf Fan/Cupid

If the Werewolf Fan is selected, one wolf will become the Sorcerer.

Rules:
Nights will be 12 hours and days will be 24 hours. The end of the next period will be clearly posted.

You may edit your posts for clarity. If you edit out an action (like shooting someone) and you get caught I'm killing you.

Votes will be conducted via poll. The poll will close exactly at the deadline. You have unlimited changes until that point. If this sucks we'll go back, even if it's mid-game (not mid-day).

There will be a minimum number of votes required to lynch. Usually this number will be around the number of villagers / 2 - 1. In the event of a tie, nobody is lynched. In the event that the minimum number of votes is not reached, nobody is lynched.

Skips require a skip vote from every player. They'll be posted in the forum as usual. Once you vote to skip, you cannot unskip.

Night events will go in the following priority order regardless of when the PMs are sent to me:

Wolf Nightmare activates
Beast Hunter picks up trap (if moved)
Wolf Shaman/Confusion activates
Medium/Ritualist revive spell
Wolves break out of warden prison
Warden weapon used
Wolf seer/Sorcerer check
Wolf seer/Sorcerer choice to resign
Blind Wolf check
Illusionist disguise
Flagger redirect
Doctor protect
Jailer/Warden protect
Bodyguard protect
Witch protect
Tough Guy protect
Violinist check + gets results
Detective check + gets results
Aura Seer checks + gets results
Spirit Seer check
Sheriff check
Voodoo wolf / Librarian mute
Marksman shot
Witch kill (if not killed by marksman, otherwise potion unused)
Jailer kill (if not killed by marksman/witch)
Red Lady visit
Revived players return from the dead (cannot be targeted by wolves/solo in same night)
Solo killer attack
Wolf berserk mode activates
Wolves kill
Spirit Seer gets results
Sheriff gets results
Beast Hunter places trap
Cupid selection

In the event that two of the same role perform the exact same action, they will both be credited.

Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads. This is honor system. When you die, you will gain access to a special forum that is already set up. The player may have access to this forum at night. If you are revived, you will lose access. Please use this forum for all discussion by dead players about the game. Alive players can talk during the main thread during the day.

It is possible, if very unlikely, for the game to end in a tie if every single player is killed. The game also ends in a tie if there are no deaths for three straight days and nights.

Winning Conditions:

Village: Kill all wolves and the solo killer.

Wolves: Kill the solo killer. Once the wolves make up half the total players, the wolves win, regardless of the roles remaining.

Solo Killer: Kill all other players.

Wildcard Role: Satisfy your winning condition. Your winning condition trumps any other that may occur at the same time. (For example, if you lynch the fool and it creates a situation where there are 3 wolves left and 3 villagers, the Fool wins only).
 

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Me, Vash, and Alu are 100% townies. Vash is the only one that can realistically be matched with another. Zell is pretty much cleared with the Jon thing. Could be matched, though. Tommy got revived, just like Jawneh said, so either he's finally the Ritualist or he's matched with one.

shortkut/Ants. One is a wolf. One is the SV.

I think Ants is SV. That just leaves kut as the last wolf. 50/50 shot there. Best choice is to lynch the matched person to avoid hitting a Fool... but if one is a HH... then we risk lynching their target unless their target is Me, Alu, Vash, or Zell.
 

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Me, Vash, and Alu are 100% townies. Vash is the only one that can realistically be matched with another. Zell is pretty much cleared with the Jon thing. Could be matched, though. Tommy got revived, just like Jawneh said, so either he's finally the Ritualist or he's matched with one.

shortkut/Ants. One is a wolf. One is the SV.

I think Ants is SV. That just leaves kut as the last wolf. 50/50 shot there. Best choice is to lynch the matched person to avoid hitting a Fool... but if one is a HH... then we risk lynching their target unless their target is Me, Alu, Vash, or Zell.
Zell totally made a sacrifice play to try to win and he's paired with Jawneh though? Everyone called him sus since the start by coming out as a seer and the first red read was the day where his instigator master was outed. He evil.

If you don't believe it's Zell, then tomorrow we can lynch Jawneh, who revived the instigator.
 
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So I'm thinking we vote for Tommy.
I am thinking we don't. As you all have witnessed, I had a meltdown yesterday due to Not Knowing How The Game Works. Apologies to our dear overlord.

There reason for my meltdown wasn't random - it was because the logic simply wasn't making sense to the point where I thought the actual game was broken. As I was announced to be the fuckin Instigator of all things, I couldn't accept it at first and had a long ponder in the dead thread. I could not get past the fact that my aura has not, was not, and could not be Unknown. Even if I was the Instigator, my aura would be good. It just didn't make sense. Then I finally realized the only possible way this could be a thing:

13. Wolf Scribe
Twice per game, can successfully alter how deaths are reported. The Wolf Scribe can select a player at night and if they die, whatever method and role the Scribe chooses will be reported to the village. They can alter the death reports of their teammates and themselves. MP Usage: 50
I nearly ruined the game by being fully convinced something was wrong, or that something got communicated incorrectly. The only thing wrong was the way I was handing the facts. Someone must have scribed me the night before, and then reported me as something entirely incorrect the next day. I'm sorry, but there is no way that I have an Unknown aura, and I focused so strongly on that lie because I would had rather believed Alu to be telling the truth and the game was broken more than I thought he was lying. It was just a really good lie.

I can verify all of that with a read that you're all going to believe tomorrow.
I know you have the town in your hand right now, but unless someone can have an explanation for the last two days without "huh, dunno", then I cannot believe what you say anymore.
 
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I am thinking we don't. As you all have witnessed, I had a meltdown yesterday due to Not Knowing How The Game Works. Apologies to our dear overlord.

There reason for my meltdown wasn't random - it was because the logic simply wasn't making sense to the point where I thought the actual game was broken. As I was announced to be the fuckin Instigator of all things, I couldn't accept it at first and had a long ponder in the dead thread. I could not get past the fact that my aura has not, was not, and could not be Unknown. Even if I was the Instigator, my aura would be good. It just didn't make sense. Then I finally realized the only possible way this could be a thing:


I nearly ruined the game by being fully convinced something was wrong, or that something got communicated incorrectly. The only thing wrong was the way I was handing the facts. Someone must have scribed me the night before, and then reported me as something entirely incorrect the next day. I'm sorry, but there is no way that I have an Unknown aura, and I focused so strongly on that lie because I would had rather believed Alu to be telling the truth and the game was broken more than I thought he was lying. It was just a really good lie.


I know you have the town in your hand right now, but unless someone can have an explanation for the last two days without "huh, dunno", then I cannot believe what you say anymore.
Hate to break it to you but scribe can’t change auras.

Either you believe Benzine made a mistake or Alu is fake / gave a fake read. There is no other explanation.
 

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Zell totally made a sacrifice play to try to win and he's paired with Jawneh though? Everyone called him sus since the start by coming out as a seer and the first red read was the day where his instigator master was outed. He evil.

If you don't believe it's Zell, then tomorrow we can lynch Jawneh, who revived the instigator.
This is key I think. Zell was trying to save Tommy, but it didn’t work as intended. He is following the playbook for how to wolf to a T because he wrote it.

Tommy, then Zell or Jawneh to die will prove me
 
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Zell totally made a sacrifice play to try to win and he's paired with Jawneh though? Everyone called him sus since the start by coming out as a seer and the first red read was the day where his instigator master was outed. He evil.

If you don't believe it's Zell, then tomorrow we can lynch Jawneh, who revived the instigator.

You could just as easily have made the same sacrifice play you are accusing me of…and I have the benefit of having never given proven wrong info.
 
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As instigator you should know who your Wolfie is so you know I'm telling the truth when I say Zell is evil.
If I am the Instigator, why was your read on me Unknown? I literally can't be the Instigator with an Unknown aura.

And now you're just trying to rush your sound logic along when that doesn't make sense. Nothing made sense yesterday but it was just "yep, nope, all good here let's keep moving".

Something is not right.

Either you believe Benzine made a mistake or Alu is fake / gave a fake read. There is no other explanation.
I agree. I don't think a mistake was made and I do believe Alu was lying. I just don't get a.) why and b.) why nobody cares
 

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You could just as easily have made the same sacrifice play you are accusing me of…and I have the benefit of having never given proven wrong info.
It is unfortunate for sure that yesterday ended up being as confusing as it was. I can only go by the information I was given.

Clearly the answer today is Tommy, then it's figuring out who is wolf is tomorrow, or lynching the most likely town pair of Jawneh.

I could go for the other way around though, Jawneh/Zell first.
 
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It is unfortunate for sure that yesterday ended up being as confusing as it was. I can only go by the information I was given.
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Greetings, greetings! It's your very own and beloved Jawneh "I'm the ritualist" Ritualist here! And boy do I got news for everyone!

.... or so I would say, but there wasn't much. I gotta say, even after multiple nights, the dad thread is pretty empty. Depressingly so. But I got a couple things to say! If I remember them.

Quagmire said something about being killed... I think it was Fuck you Fool's. Sounds about right.

Benzine told me to pass along everyone to fucken run wolf games. He's up to here with ya cunts already. The few following posts started to get to R rated territory with mashing people and things together so... y'all get to read all that later.

And that's that. Hi.
 

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Me, Vash, and Alu are 100% townies. Vash is the only one that can realistically be matched with another. Zell is pretty much cleared with the Jon thing. Could be matched, though. Tommy got revived, just like Jawneh said, so either he's finally the Ritualist or he's matched with one.

shortkut/Ants. One is a wolf. One is the SV.

I think Ants is SV. That just leaves kut as the last wolf. 50/50 shot there. Best choice is to lynch the matched person to avoid hitting a Fool... but if one is a HH... then we risk lynching their target unless their target is Me, Alu, Vash, or Zell.
I'm just gonna poke your logic here a bit.

If you're saying Vash and Alu are 100% townies, I have to be too. Tommy got revived, like I said, thus proving it is I, the ritualist, whomst did it. Otherwise, by your logic, either one of them could also be matched with a marksman or aura seer and not be proven. Hell, as an example, in my first instigator game where I was instigated, I was a doctor, but had Tubby play as the role of the doc as his wolf cover.

kut and Ants tho. I'm pretty sure you're right on those too. Also, kut being a wolf we can just lynch him. He could be the instigated wolf as well.
 

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I'm just gonna poke your logic here a bit.

If you're saying Vash and Alu are 100% townies, I have to be too. Tommy got revived, like I said, thus proving it is I, the ritualist, whomst did it. Otherwise, by your logic, either one of them could also be matched with a marksman or aura seer and not be proven. Hell, as an example, in my first instigator game where I was instigated, I was a doctor, but had Tubby play as the role of the doc as his wolf cover.

kut and Ants tho. I'm pretty sure you're right on those too. Also, kut being a wolf we can just lynch him. He could be the instigated wolf as well.
If I was the instigated wolf, I wouldn’t have tried to get Tommy killed. Zell, on the other hand, tried to divert the kill from Tommy to Jon, but unfortunately for the 3 of you, Vash already had him pegged so no one hopped off the Tommy train. If you’re going to call me an instigated wolf, at least have a reason
 

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I'm just gonna poke your logic here a bit.

If you're saying Vash and Alu are 100% townies, I have to be too. Tommy got revived, like I said, thus proving it is I, the ritualist, whomst did it. Otherwise, by your logic, either one of them could also be matched with a marksman or aura seer and not be proven. Hell, as an example, in my first instigator game where I was instigated, I was a doctor, but had Tubby play as the role of the doc as his wolf cover.

kut and Ants tho. I'm pretty sure you're right on those too. Also, kut being a wolf we can just lynch him. He could be the instigated wolf as well.
Alu is not matched with anyone.
 

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If I was the instigated wolf, I wouldn’t have tried to get Tommy killed. Zell, on the other hand, tried to divert the kill from Tommy to Jon, but unfortunately for the 3 of you, Vash already had him pegged so no one hopped off the Tommy train. If you’re going to call me an instigated wolf, at least have a reason
A wolf's a wolf though. I'm not saying it's probable, but it's not impossible. You're a guaranteed wolf lynch regardless.

... sorry, dimmerwit. My bad lmao. They all look the same when they're dead.
 

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What proof do you have on that though? The only thing we can be sure about is you not being instigated as you shot Tommy.

Though I fucking wish you'd be and have the balls to blast him away lmao.
Alu stated that he saw Tommy as Unknown. Why would an Instigated party member put a target on their leader like that?

Alu is not matched.
 
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