Alright, here's the gimmick

[Aluse Cannon]

What are you talking about? At no point have I believed they'll figure it out lmao

 

[canadaguy]

They just need to follow through on having Tommy Boy FC himself and there will be no deaths tonight right? That would confuse the hell out of them, and hopefully enough to make them skip the next day's lynch.

But nah, they'll just want to kill everyone.

SK could theoretically by stacking their kills, so I think that one can be talked through.

Reasoning why the wolves didn't kill would be fishier. Could be they happened to target SK. What other way could they come up with?

 

[Aluse Cannon]

No deaths today means no wolf solo kills tomorrow and that will so baffling with no one coming forward with protection roles

Jawneh likely will come forward with an unheard of before ritualist protection.

 

[Zell 17]

SK could theoretically by stacking their kills, so I think that one can be talked through.

Reasoning why the wolves didn't kill would be fishier. Could be they happened to target SK. What other way could they come up with?

Yeah that's what I think will happen. They'll guess wolves hit SK and the SK is stacking.

 

[dimmerwit]

I think we've broken Tommy.

 

[Zell 17]

I actually think Tommy is doing quite well

 

[dimmerwit]

No, wait. He comes in clutch with a bit of perception.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

He did have that, and now the town is back to the business of killing themselves for sport.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

And the skips are in?

 

[Kat]

Didn't Tommy also need to skip?

 

[Kat]

That was an excellent observation about no win condition for the SNV. Has anybody commented that the win condition for everyone else is also different? Except for the SK I guess, since they always have to kill everyone.

 

[Zell 17]

@Ben
@Tommy Boy

 

[Zell 17]

Night 4 Wolf:
VashTheStampede

Night 4 Solo Killer:
Jawneh

 

[Zell 17]

Deaths:
Christina
Benzine

 

[Local Hero]

@Tommy Boy

 

[Aluse Cannon]

lol. Well they might lynch Jawneh tomorrow but there's a 0% chance Vash is going down

 

[canadaguy]

 

[canadaguy]

I'm glad I am dead so I don't have to keep track of all these detective readings.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

I hope all you new people enjoy realizing that everything that's been done to this point has been...pointless.

 

[Zell 17]

I'm glad I am dead so I don't have to keep track of all these detective readings.

I'm posting everyone's night alignment here so I have a reference when I'm on mobile lol

 

[canadaguy]

I hope all you new people enjoy realizing that everything that's been done to this point has been...pointless.

 

[dimmerwit]

I hope all you new people enjoy realizing that everything that's been done to this point has been...pointless.

Well except me protecting Christina which has ended up hurting the town (and killing you).

 

[canadaguy]

I mean, it was worth it watching all that unfold knowing the truth


But I think Tommy almost lost himself there for a minute

 

[dimmerwit]

He only lost it because he understands something's up.

Meanwhile the others are just shitposting away.

 

[canadaguy]

He only lost it because he understands something's up.

Meanwhile the others are just shitposting away.

I think everyone is just convinced the gimmick is not knowing how many of each team there are. I will admit that's what I thought too.


Now we are all like Neo when he learns about the matrix

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Well except me protecting Christina which has ended up hurting the town (and killing you).

It's your fault I'm dead. But also your fault that I have no townie blood on my hands (other than my own because of all the bleeding I did after being fake stabbed)

He only lost it because he understands something's up.

Meanwhile the others are just shitposting away.

Tommy seems to be the only one interested in trying to figure out a gimmick that's anything other than "our roles are funnily assigned!"

 

[Zell 17]

It'll definitely be more confusing today. It will appear to be one wolf, one solo killer, and one townie left.

Poor Vash will think he's on an island and that he's deciding which evil wins. But the other two will know that they are a villager, and that Vash is the Gunner. What happens then?

 

[Ben]

 

[dimmerwit]

I still think the issue is that so far everything has just about plausibly fit in a normal game.

This is probably where I'd become very suspicious as there is just no room for Tommy being a regular villager even if kut was a real Wolf Trickster.

 

[Jon]

It'll definitely be more confusing today. It will appear to be one wolf, one solo killer, and one townie left.

Poor Vash will think he's on an island and that he's deciding which evil wins. But the other two will know that they are a villager, and that Vash is the Gunner. What happens then?

You should give him that extra bullet now.

 

[Jon]

I still think the issue is that so far everything has just about plausibly fit in a normal game.

This is probably where I'd become very suspicious as there is just no room for Tommy being a regular villager even if kut was a real Wolf Trickster.

The amount of each team is hidden, so what "fits" is almost irrelevant.

 

[Jon]

Also I love how to give the wolves a real chance in Zell's game you just have to make it no wolves and watch the town murder itself.

 

[canadaguy]

It'll definitely be more confusing today. It will appear to be one wolf, one solo killer, and one townie left.

Poor Vash will think he's on an island and that he's deciding which evil wins. But the other two will know that they are a villager, and that Vash is the Gunner. What happens then?

Well now they will definitely be cranking out some gimmick theories.

 

[Kat]

Poor Vash will think he's on an island and that he's deciding which evil wins. But the other two will know that they are a villager, and that Vash is the Gunner. What happens then?

I've been wondering if it might come down to that. Can the non proven villagers convince each other that they're innocent? Maybe. I can't wait to find out.

 

[Ben]

My only qualm with this meta is being painted as a liar when explicitly not doing so. Trustworthiness in this shit carries over and unintentionally seeming to be full of crap is whack.

But I guess on concluding everyone will know this was just fucking weird, so maybe I'm paranoid.

 

[Zell 17]

My only qualm with this meta is being painted as a liar when explicitly not doing so. Trustworthiness in this shit carries over and unintentionally seeming to be full of crap is whack.

But I guess on concluding everyone will know this was just fucking weird, so maybe I'm paranoid.

That's kind of the beauty. Every single person was telling the truth every single day. And that made them even more suspicious.

 

[Local Hero]

That's kind of the beauty. Every single person was telling the truth every single day. And that made them even more suspicious.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

My only qualm with this meta is being painted as a liar when explicitly not doing so. Trustworthiness in this shit carries over and unintentionally seeming to be full of crap is whack.

But I guess on concluding everyone will know this was just fucking weird, so maybe I'm paranoid.

You all almost came up with a great solution today of lynching Tommy instead. Would have resulted in 0 deaths in the day and 0 overnight as well. Halfway to a victory if the town just managed to not lynch anyone tomorrow.

 

[Kat]

That's kind of the beauty. Every single person was telling the truth every single day. And that made them even more suspicious.

I never would've guessed the town would become honest. Usually some townies are lying about their roles.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

That's kind of the beauty. Every single person was telling the truth every single day. And that made them even more suspicious.

False. Jawneh was lying every single day.

 

[dimmerwit]

The amount of each team is hidden, so what "fits" is almost irrelevant.

I don't agree though. I considered a game with merely a larger town and fewer wolves to be simply unbalanced and not a gimmick so I discounted the idea. A game with no wolves is another thing entirely. So if I saw that the known town roles were just expanding beyond normal with no explanation I'd definitely have said something.

 

[Zell 17]

@Benzine
@Christina

 

[Aluse Cannon]

So what now with Vash being outed as a gunner and there being "confirmed" SK and wolves left, when the other two know that can't possibly be the case. It's utterly amazing and I'm somewhat sad we don't get to see Tommy melt even further in this scenario.

 

[Kat]

So it's Vash, Jawneh, and Quagmire left? It's not great, I don't think Vash will believe them.

 

[Zell 17]

So what now with Vash being outed as a gunner and there being "confirmed" SK and wolves left, when the other two know that can't possibly be the case. It's utterly amazing and I'm somewhat sad we don't get to see Tommy melt even further in this scenario.

Yeah but Vash will think they're both trying to convince him to give them the win. And only one vote to lynch

 

[Christina]

Somebody finally killed me!!! That took way longer than expected.

Yo, Benzine! You're a bad guy!

 

[Aluse Cannon]

I expect Jawneh to continue saying he's a ritualist and Quagmire to be all WTF about it, resulting in Jawneh being lynched and everyone losing.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Somebody finally killed me!!! That took way longer than expected.

Yo, Benzine! You're a bad guy!

 

[Benzine]

ok

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Somebody finally killed me!!! That took way longer than expected.

Yo, Benzine! You're a bad guy!

Also no one actually killed you other than RNG unless you want to blame Zell.

Although RNG tried to kill you earlier but instead resulted in me dying.